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Post by enginterzi on Feb 12, 2011 6:50:13 GMT -5
I personally think Obama is a wolf in sheep's clothing i agree with this statement but from opposite reasons.i believe that a black American president (whose father is a muslim) was a strategy to clean the messy image of Bush as an American President on the eyes of the World (it was planned long ago and black president image was alrady used in the holywood movies in 90s).what has been changed? Israel continues to build houses in east Jerusalem even though it belongs to Palestenians.the lobbies just needed a brake till re-gaining the power back after the economical chaoses.good cop-bad cop games i love being part of this board and have no problems with American people but if you have right to criticise this side of the world then i also have right to criticise the politics.
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Post by enginterzi on Feb 12, 2011 7:07:48 GMT -5
has Egypt been the country which US helps the most (except Israel) or not? if yes then how can one cover the sun with the mud (how can you cover the truth by untruthful words) ? what has been the reason that US has been helping such a dictator?
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Post by Aaron Blevins on Feb 12, 2011 10:28:58 GMT -5
US does not want democracy,it just wants to control other countries. sadly....THIS IS A FACT.....BUT, I'LL TAKE IT, NO PROBLEM. NOW ASK YOURSELF WHY? I don't care who gets offended. The bottom line is....THE ENTIRE MIDDLE EAST IS UNSTABLE....AT BEST. 3rd World CRAZIES as an entire region, shame on progress, Defensive and borderline PSYCHO personalities engulf the ENTIRE REGION. I'm TIRED AS F*CK about worrying about how Middle Easterners view our stance and involvement in the World. Pull it together and quit blowing yourselves up to kill Americans....f*cking CRAZY. Quit trying to convince yourselves that we are the enemy. ATTEMPT for 1 second and try to understand that if left alone...and on your own...the world is at your mercy of INSANITY. All that OIL that is over there ..... spreads through the enitire region....AND is being sat on by the MOST UNSTABLE REGION IN THE ENTIRE WORLD. OF COURSE YOU NEED A BABYSITTER.
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Post by enginterzi on Feb 12, 2011 10:47:17 GMT -5
why ? to have more power of course.
stop blowing ourselves to kill Americans? we are not blowing ourselves as i am Turkish man.but you can stop supporting Israel to kill Palestenians,maybe?
Hitler killed Jews and worlds powers gave Palestine to Jews,why? Israel was created by the Irgun Terrorists.and who are the european Askenazi Jews that came to Palestine? descendants of Abraham? not at all,they are the descendants of Khazar people who became Jews in 6. century.so what the hell are they doing in Palestine? Sephardic Jews are the descendants of Abraham but their children were radiated (by the machines that were brought from USA) by the Askenazi Jews to be made minority.
what are you doing over here thousands of miles away from your country? chemical and bioligical weapons in Iraq (i mean the gas that Reagan gave to Saddam to kill Kurds and Persians)? Saddam was a beloved friend to fight against Iran right? same as the Mujahideens that US supported with money,weapon and rambo movie against the Soviets.
no one needs baby sitter ,it is just the excuse of occupying the other countries,just be careful to protect your own before spreading your power all over the world.Hitler made the same mistake and he tasted the defeat.
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Post by enginterzi on Feb 12, 2011 10:50:52 GMT -5
entire middle east unstable? i wonder who brought all those dictators as the head of those Arab countries
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Post by enginterzi on Feb 12, 2011 10:59:24 GMT -5
Pull it together and quit blowing yourselves up to kill Americans....f*cking CRAZY. . what they do is very wrong,as wrong as the people who killed their families and took their land !
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Post by enginterzi on Feb 12, 2011 11:20:00 GMT -5
Israel's most powerful news paper; www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/obama-will-go-down-in-history-as-the-president-who-lost-egypt-1.340057 " Obama will go down in history as the president who lost Egypt" " The street revolts in Tunisia and Egypt show that the United States can do very little to save its friends from the wrath of their citizens." and now i read you guys writing how bad person Mubarak is ;D yes he was the modern day PHARAOH and also was the ally of USA that has been giving him billions of dollars. Aaron,thanks for the honesty at least about admitting that US does not care about democracy.
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Post by enginterzi on Feb 12, 2011 11:28:38 GMT -5
the Israeli News Paper Haaretz says that Obama lost these countries.in fact US never had these countries but only controlled the dictators of these countries.do you think publics of these countries love US? if you want to gain the hearts of the publics then stop doing everything the Zionists order.serving Zionism is the reason of the problems between USA and these people.no one has any problem with the American Public.that is what Zionists want you to believe so that you would support them to kill more of Palestenians.
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Post by enginterzi on Feb 12, 2011 11:37:48 GMT -5
the creators of Israel,Irgun the first terrorist organisation of 20. century;
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Post by enginterzi on Feb 12, 2011 11:51:35 GMT -5
the LETTER OF EINSTEIN (a Jew); www.rense.com/general59/ein.htmLetters to the Editor New York Times December 4, 1948 TO THE EDITORS OF THE NEW YORK TIMES: Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine. The current visit of Menachem Begin, leader of this party, to the United States is obviously calculated to give the impression of American support for his party in the coming Israeli elections, and to cement political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States. Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome his visit. It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughoutthe world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin's political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents. Before irreparable damage is done by way of financial contributions, public manifestations in Begin's behalf, and the creation in Palestine of the impression that a large segment of America supports Fascist elements in Israel, the American public must be informed as to the record and objectives of Mr. Begin and his movement. The public avowals of Begin's party are no guide whatever to its actual character. Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character; from its past actions we can judge what it may be expected to do in the future. Attack on Arab Village A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base. On April 9 (THE NEW YORK TIMES), terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants ? 240men, women, and children - and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem. Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin. The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies the character and actions of the Freedom Party. Within the Jewish community they have preached an admixture of ultranationalism, religious mysticism, and racial superiority. Like other Fascist parties they have been used to break strikes, and have themselves pressed for the destruction of free trade unions. In their stead they have proposed corporate unions on the Italian Fascist model. During the last years of sporadic anti-British violence, the IZL and Stern groups inaugurated a reign of terror in the Palestine Jewish community. Teachers were beaten up for speaking against them, adults were shot for not letting their children join them. By gangster methods, beatings, window-smashing, and wide-spread robberies, the terrorists intimidated the population and exacted a heavy tribute. The people of the Freedom Party have had no part in the constructive achievements in Palestine. They have reclaimed no land, built no settlements, and only detracted from the Jewish defense activity. Their much-publicized immigration endeavors were minute, and devoted mainly to bringing in Fascist compatriots. Discrepancies Seen The discrepancies between the bold claims now being made by Begin and his party, and their record of past performance in Palestine bear the imprint of no ordinary political party. This is the unmistakable stamp of a Fascist party for whom terrorism (against Jews, Arabs, and British alike), and misrepresentation are means, and a "Leader State" is the goal. In the light of the foregoing considerations, it is imperative that the truth about Mr. Begin and his movement be made known in this country. It is all the more tragic that the top leadership of American Zionism has refused to campaign against Begin's efforts, or even to expose to its own constituents the dangers to Israel from support to Begin. The undersigned therefore take this means of publicly presenting a few salient facts concerning Begin and his party; and of urging all concerned not to support this latest manifestation of fascism. ISIDORE ABRAMOWITZ HANNAH ARENDT ABRAHAM BRICK RABBI JESSURUN CARDOZO ALBERT EINSTEIN HERMAN EISEN, M.D. HAYIM FINEMAN M. GALLEN, M.D. H.H. HARRIS ZELIG S. HARRIS SIDNEY HOOK FRED KARUSH BRURIA KAUFMAN IRMA L. LINDHEIM NACHMAN MAISEL SEYMOUR MELMAN MYER D. MENDELSON M.D., HARRY M. OSLINSKY SAMUEL PITLICK FRITZ ROHRLICH LOUIS P. ROCKER RUTH SAGIS ITZHAK SANKOWSKY I.J. SHOENBERG SAMUEL SHUMAN M. SINGER IRMA WOLFE STEFAN WOLF. New York, Dec. 2, 1948
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Post by Ryan Thames on Feb 12, 2011 12:36:28 GMT -5
OF COURSE YOU NEED A BABYSITTER. Not agreeing or disagreeing Just find this particular part of this particular rant to be super hilarious.
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Post by Aaron Blevins on Feb 12, 2011 20:23:45 GMT -5
Aaron,thanks for the honesty at least about admitting that US does not care about democracy. PART 2 (of my rant ) EFF Democracy when people can't think clearly for themselves. Let me tell you something..... It's not very "Democratic" in my house when my 8yr old decides it's ok to hang from the curtains......I just handle it and waiver the irresponsible thinking that pulled my curtains, rods and hanger to the floor. At this point I "Re-Route" said mindframe and influence different direction.... ;D Engin, you also seem to believe that I may need to be educated. You can go ahead and stop right there my friend. If I need to clean up my toproll or training regime I'll ask you. Outside of that, you've got nothing for me. I've got my own views and beliefs. No matter how much literature you post on this board.... It will not sway my viewpoint, character or beliefs in any way. I Don't know what you have done for your country....or any other country you spend countless posts on here defending? But, I've got 32yrs on this planet.....living in a Great Country, 11 of which I spent as Active Duty defending my country from all enemies foreign and domestic. Yeah... and 2 of those years I spent over there in the Middle East really admiring how well that region has things figured out . Now...you are a man of integrity and good character I believe. But, you can stop trying to own me with all your quotes and passages. Just, understand that we reside and have grown in different parts of the world....and you have your stance....and I have mine.
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Post by Tommy Russell on Feb 12, 2011 23:42:53 GMT -5
Bravo Mr. Blevins!
Engin, don't hate the playa, hate the game.
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Post by enginterzi on Feb 13, 2011 6:36:59 GMT -5
Let me tell you something..... It's not very "Democratic" in my house when my 8yr old decides it's ok to hang from the curtains......I just handle it and waiver the irresponsible thinking that pulled my curtains, rods and hanger to the floor. At this point I "Re-Route" said mindframe and influence different direction.... ;D what happens in your home is between you and your family members,US is not even relative of mideast. Engin, you also seem to believe that I may need to be educated. You can go ahead and stop right there my friend. If I need to clean up my toproll or training regime I'll ask you. Outside of that, you've got nothing for me. except you no one stated that i am educating anyone. I've got my own views and beliefs. No matter how much literature you post on this board.... It will not sway my viewpoint, character or beliefs in any way. I Don't know what you have done for your country....or any other country you spend countless posts on here defending? But, I've got 32yrs on this planet.....living in a Great Country, 11 of which I spent as Active Duty defending my country from all enemies foreign and domestic. Yeah... and 2 of those years I spent over there in the Middle East really admiring how well that region has things figured out . no one asked you to change your opinions same as you did not ask me to change mine.i am not educating anyone,i have spent 6 years in your country and have heard all kind of opinions.i have been a member of this board for almost 7 years and reading all kind of opinions.no one has to change his-her own opinion. Now...you are a man of integrity and good character I believe. But, you can stop trying to own me with all your quotes and passages. Just, understand that we reside and have grown in different parts of the world....and you have your stance....and I have mine. i do not know why you have felt yourself at the middle of the subject by taking my posts on yourself but whenever i direct my post i either mention your name or quote your post.
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Post by Bill Maenza on Feb 13, 2011 6:50:09 GMT -5
This is why Ron Paul should have been elected!
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