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Post by James Worke on Apr 15, 2011 12:30:17 GMT -5
As i reread definition #1 is says evidence is a thing(bible) or things(testimonies) thats helpful in forming a conclusion or judgement. Testimonies ARE EVIDENCE in helping forming conclusions on ones beliefs. With the testimonies ive heard and experienced....thats all the evidence i need. But everyones requirement for the amount of evidence needed to draw a conclusion is different. And thats ok.....
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Post by TK on Apr 15, 2011 13:50:52 GMT -5
ev·i·dence ( v -d ns) n. 1. A thing or things helpful in forming a conclusion or judgment: The broken window was evidence that a burglary had taken place. Scientists weigh the evidence for and against a hypothesis. 2. Something indicative; an outward sign: evidence of grief on a mourner's face. 3. Law The documentary or oral statements and/or the material objects admissible as testimony in a court of law. tr.v. ev·i·denced, ev·i·denc·ing, ev·i·denc·es 1. To indicate clearly; exemplify or prove. 2. To support by testimony; attest. Idiom: in evidence 1. Plainly visible; to be seen: It was early, and few pedestrians were in evidence on the city streets. 2. Law As legal evidence: submitted the photograph in evidence Just like the broken window was evidence a burglary took place....the disappearance of a bodyspread cancer is proof a miracle took place. Our court systems allow testimonies and documents as evidence, everyday. By definition of evidence....a document(bible) and oral statements(testimonies) are EVIDENCE of someones beliefs. No matter how someone may believe.....testimonies of Gods work in their life backed up by the bible is enuf EVIDENCE for me. Hundreds of thousands of testimonies IS EVIDENCE, by definition. THATS JUST MY OPINION i like that..really good post there.... but wait..... i'm gonna write me a book with testamonies from athiest and what they say and do is evidence that God doesnt exist, and i'm gonna work up some magic crap so's i can match the bibles fictional tune. dude...nice try.....but a book written by people is not evedence...it's a book written by people with opinions and many nights of mushrooms, & wine.......really creative stories. i can do that too....hell OJ Simpson wrote a good fictional book....but thats another debate all together. but i did like the post! party at my house....byoB.....let's get ta writing!  TK |
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Post by Ryan Thames on Apr 15, 2011 14:30:26 GMT -5
Your a doofus you do know that right?
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Post by John Wilson on Apr 15, 2011 14:44:11 GMT -5
i'm gonna write me a book with testamonies from athiest and what they say and do is evidence that God doesnt exist, and i'm gonna work up some magic crap... TK You're too late. The Origin Of Species has already been written. |
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Post by enginterzi on Apr 15, 2011 14:54:23 GMT -5
i'm gonna write me a book with testamonies from athiest and what they say and do is evidence that God doesnt exist, and i'm gonna work up some magic crap... TK You're too late. The Origin Of Species has already been written. ;D |
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Post by James Worke on Apr 15, 2011 16:22:53 GMT -5
ev·i·dence ( v -d ns) n. 1. A thing or things helpful in forming a conclusion or judgment: The broken window was evidence that a burglary had taken place. Scientists weigh the evidence for and against a hypothesis. 2. Something indicative; an outward sign: evidence of grief on a mourner's face. 3. Law The documentary or oral statements and/or the material objects admissible as testimony in a court of law. tr.v. ev·i·denced, ev·i·denc·ing, ev·i·denc·es 1. To indicate clearly; exemplify or prove. 2. To support by testimony; attest. Idiom: in evidence 1. Plainly visible; to be seen: It was early, and few pedestrians were in evidence on the city streets. 2. Law As legal evidence: submitted the photograph in evidence Just like the broken window was evidence a burglary took place....the disappearance of a bodyspread cancer is proof a miracle took place. Our court systems allow testimonies and documents as evidence, everyday. By definition of evidence....a document(bible) and oral statements(testimonies) are EVIDENCE of someones beliefs. No matter how someone may believe.....testimonies of Gods work in their life backed up by the bible is enuf EVIDENCE for me. Hundreds of thousands of testimonies IS EVIDENCE, by definition. THATS JUST MY OPINION Yes the bible is evidence that someone has the belief or wants you to believe they do.......however it is not evidence that what they believe is true....that evidence does not exsist That evidence doesnt exist thru your perspective, but it does thru mine. Your wanting all your evidence to be tangible, but all evidence isnt tangible...."the evidence of grief on a mourners face".....someone mite think theyre angry instead of grieving.....its all perspective on how you view the evidence. Some may view cancer disappearing a mishap during the previous test, while others view it as evidence God works miracles. Perspective.....lets say u have 2 lawyers gathering EVIDENCE, substance things AND testimonies. Both present the evidence differently and can make you believe either side to be TRUTH. So.....the truth to you.....would be the conclusion you draw from the evidence presented. Presented differently and you could possibly draw a different conclusion. A different truth....in your perspective. I put my 2¢ in......im going back to enjoying yalls posts...... |
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Post by enginterzi on Apr 15, 2011 16:35:26 GMT -5
i just laugh about this evidence subject esspecially when i know that how the Piltdown Man had been used as the evidence of evolution for many years until it was proven to be a great lie.i think science is a great thing but honesty is greater thing because science can be the worst thing in the hands of dishonest people,JMO.
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Post by David Owens on Apr 15, 2011 17:02:47 GMT -5
i just laugh about this evidence subject esspecially when i know that how the Piltdown Man had been used as the evidence of evolution for many years until it was proven to be a great lie.i think science is a great thing but honesty is greater thing because science can be the worst thing in the hands of dishonest people,JMO. So can religion James you are really splitting hairs and reaching for a way to back your beliefs which is not nessecary because that's why they are your beliefs but that doesn't change the fact that there is noooooooooo real evidence that god, or the miracles of christ exsist in any shape or form, and christians will tell you that's why faith is faith and they are righteither you have it or you dont |
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Post by James Worke on Apr 15, 2011 17:24:20 GMT -5
..however it is not evidence that what they believe is true....that evidence does not exsist. Thats why i rarely participate in these discussions. Seems your defintion of evidence and definition of what forms truth, is different than mine which makes it difficult to exchange thoughts on my end. Ill leave it at that....its all good...  |
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Post by enginterzi on Apr 15, 2011 17:31:09 GMT -5
i just laugh about this evidence subject esspecially when i know that how the Piltdown Man had been used as the evidence of evolution for many years until it was proven to be a great lie.i think science is a great thing but honesty is greater thing because science can be the worst thing in the hands of dishonest people,JMO. So can religion agreed! but my main point was that faith is based on spiritual reasons but evolution is "said to be" based on physical evidences.i can not tell that i can prove what i believe and i expect the same honesty. |
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Post by Andrew Fournier on Apr 16, 2011 23:38:00 GMT -5
God created Everything. Those who do not believe will die and be tortured eternally. End of Story. The Fear of the Lord is the Beginning of Knowledge, but Fools Despise Wisdom and Discipline.
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Post by Andrew Fournier on Apr 17, 2011 0:04:40 GMT -5
There is bad people that believe and good people who don't... Bad people who believe and good people who don't will both get what they deserve. |
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Post by TK on Apr 17, 2011 6:20:04 GMT -5
I see the once confused, has been brainwashed too.
Good job Andrew!
TK
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Post by TK on Apr 17, 2011 6:21:02 GMT -5
difference is, Evolution is allowed to be taught as a fact when it is not, very far from it even proclaimed as far from it by the scientific community. We evolved from something |
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Post by TK on Apr 17, 2011 6:22:31 GMT -5
Spiritual Truth is a completely different thing than a scientific truth. Spiritual Truth can never me measured, recorded, ect.... it just simply is to the person. That is a completely different grounds than the facts that support the arguments against evolution. You can talk all day about how there is no God but it is a philosophical discussion. Arguing against evolution is a factual studied discussion. With physical facts that support it not being true. God is a spiritual truth that we can't measure evolution is something that can be studied with facts. I wish I could tell you how many preachers I know who would say there is proof, and then spend all day reading you scripture to give you that proof if you tell someone this is the way it is without knowing you are lying, if you put I believe before that sentence then it lets people know it is your opinion and not a fact, there is alot of unsubscribed brain washing going on from both sides Nicely said! |
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