Guns

[Jim Roof]

I've fired a colt delta elite 1911 10mm,super accurate,never jammed,very cool pistol

[Johnny Edwards]

Jan 25, 2012 14:14:43 GMT -5 John Wilson said:

Jan 25, 2012 13:49:51 GMT -5 Johnny Edwards said:

I recently bought my first handgun. I have shot about 12 different kinds but so far the one I got has been the one I like the most. I got a Springfield Armory 1911-A1 Champion Operator. Shoots great and the recoil isn't bad at all being a 4" barrel either. Very accurate and has had no FTF, FTE, ect....... I also fired a Kimber Ultra Carry the other day it was probably the one I have liked 2nd to the one I bought. The Glocks I have shot are very accurate too. But they seemed to have some FTF problems. Coulda just been the magazines being used though.

*Very* nice pistol, Johnny. The new Springfield Armory 1911s are awesome. I had a handbuilt 1911 bullseye pistol for years, but it took about about a thousand bucks to make it shoot like it did. I had .001" slide to frame clearance which made it super accurate but it could only go 100 rounds before it became a jam-o-matic. This was common for competition guns but only a moron would carry a gun like that for defense. The Kimbers and the Springfields are shooting one hole out of the box with match ammo and they don't lock up tight when they get dirty. Real marvels of engineering.

I'm a .45ACP freak! My favorite pistol round. You can tailor a .45 round for anything from extreme accuracy to extreme knockdown. And like you said, a 4" bbl with at least 17lbs recoil spring makes it a joy to shoot. Obviously you probably want a 19lb spring if you shoot 230gr hardball all day. But the point is that a 1911 was born to be customized. John Browning got a whole lot right for a guy designing guns 100 years ago. Dumping the barrel swivel loop for the Browning breech lockup made them perfect.

As to Glock misfeeds, I've only heard that on a very few calibers. The 10mm is notorious for poor feeding regardless of pistol type. It's just too long and straight for an autoloader. Just like when the Desert Eagle .357 came out. .357 just isn't a good round for an autoloader. Being gas operated, the DE wouldn't cycle with standard loads so you had to run +P in them to get the slide to recoil far enough to pick up the next round. And just like the 10mm, the sidewall is just too long and straight to make that necessary up-and-forward transition into the chamber with any reliablility. I'm sure any pistol would benefit from a polished feed ramp, too. Production guns aren't perfect off the shelf and they usually rely on a very conical bullet profile such that they begin to misfeed when you run semi-wadcutter profiles like a lot of the frangible defensive loads.

People tend to look down on 9mm these days, and there's some justification for that, but as far as reliability goes there was never a better bullet design for an autoloading pistol. When it comes to life and death there's just something to be said for having a gun that always goes 'bang' when you expect it to.

There really is just something about that 1911 design I like. Out of all the different guns I have fired I just like the 1911 style the most. If feels the most comfortable in my hand and I can shoot it better. Im still learning the shooting part really well but on my 3rd time at the range I got 9 dead center shots out of 41 rounds total. The other 2 times I went to the range with my uncle we shot 600+ rounds both times. Im still in the whole learning process. Now I did fire his springfield V-10 Compact and didn't really like it that much but his Kimber Ultra Carry was NICE and fired really good. It kinda surprised me I settled on buying that Springfield I did but after handling it a bunch at the gun show and passing it by a lot I finally decided it was the gun for me and got the guy talked down a little on the price. I got that Springfield and a Smith an Wesson M&P .45 for $1395 which wasn't too bad. The Smith an Wesson even came with an extended clip. Haven't shot it yet though. But i'll be shooting my Springfield a lot.

The FTF I was reffering too happened on Holly's Glock 27 she had. I had cleaned it and everything before we went to the range. Glocks have to be one of the easiest guns to clean by far. But I am thinking it was the magazines that came with it she got 4 magazines with the gun when she bought it and the stock magazines never had a failure to feed but the extended clips that came with it ftf a couple times. It's still fun to shoot that gun too. I like the Glocks after firing a couple of them.

[John Wilson]

Jan 26, 2012 0:33:13 GMT -5 Johnny Edwards said:

There really is just something about that 1911 design I like. Out of all the different guns I have fired I just like the 1911 style the most. If feels the most comfortable in my hand and I can shoot it better. Im still learning the shooting part really well but on my 3rd time at the range I got 9 dead center shots out of 41 rounds total. The other 2 times I went to the range with my uncle we shot 600+ rounds both times. Im still in the whole learning process. Now I did fire his springfield V-10 Compact and didn't really like it that much but his Kimber Ultra Carry was NICE and fired really good. It kinda surprised me I settled on buying that Springfield I did but after handling it a bunch at the gun show and passing it by a lot I finally decided it was the gun for me and got the guy talked down a little on the price. I got that Springfield and a Smith an Wesson M&P .45 for $1395 which wasn't too bad. The Smith an Wesson even came with an extended clip. Haven't shot it yet though. But i'll be shooting my Springfield a lot.

The FTF I was reffering too happened on Holly's Glock 27 she had. I had cleaned it and everything before we went to the range. Glocks have to be one of the easiest guns to clean by far. But I am thinking it was the magazines that came with it she got 4 magazines with the gun when she bought it and the stock magazines never had a failure to feed but the extended clips that came with it ftf a couple times. It's still fun to shoot that gun too. I like the Glocks after firing a couple of them.

I'm with you. The 1911 is a shooter's pistol all the way around. As far as getting accurate with it, dry firing is very helpful. Just like armwrestling, repetition is everything in developing a consistant grip, sight picture, and trigger squeeze. Dry firing is super helpful. Dry fire at a dot on the wall over and over and watch the front sight. Chances are you are pushing or pulling left/right with your trigger finger.

[John Wilson]

Jan 25, 2012 22:51:22 GMT -5 Jim Roof said:

I've fired a colt delta elite 1911 10mm,super accurate,never jammed,very cool pistol

I've heard nothing but great stuff about the Delta Elite. I remember when those came out around '89 or '90 when the 10mm was getting traction. Superb pistols by all accounts. I've never gotten to shoot one though.

It's odd about the 10mm. At first it was too powerful and the pressures were causing stress on gun frames and then it began being downloaded to ease the pressures, which may have been a lot of the reason why the feed issues started. But it was the 10mm that gave us the .40, which is a just a cut down 10mm.

[John Wilson]

Hey Mat Helmer, resident Air Gun expert.... (or anyone who would like to answer)

Do you have a recommendation for an accurate air rifle in the $100 range? I tried a Gamo and was seriously disappointed in the accuracy. I really don't want anything I have to pump, or anything that takes C02 cartriges, so I'm leaning towards a break-barrel action.

Suggestions?

[Jim Roof]

The .40 is a good cartridge,but I gotta say the .357 sig is one of my favorite to fire,plus you get ballistics on par with a .357 magnum out of a cartridge half the size,its basically a .40 necked down for a 9mm slug,good knockdown power also. Federal air marshalls carry sig229's in .357sig

[Jim Roof]

Plus if you have a glock 22 in .40,you can get .357sig barrels pretty cheap from lone wolf distributers,then you can practice with .40 plinker ammo and swap barrels and carry .357sig with full power loads for self defense......honestly the only drawback is the price of the .357sig ammo (unless you reload)!

[John Wilson]

How's the recoil on .357 Sig? That's a pretty hot load isn't it? I know the pressures are pretty high. I always imagined it would be a snappy recoil but quick to get back on target. No?

[Jim Roof]

Absolutly correct,I had a sig p226 combo .40 and .357 sig barrels but I sold it,very nice pistol,very snappy recoil but in a fullsize doublestack autoloader platform it is not uncomfortable to shoot at all,I had my 9yr old daughter shooting it at the range,so if any man says the recoil from that cartridge is too much is a p***y

[Jim Roof]

I've always loved my colt govt model in .45acp,and I love my buddys 10mm delta elite,but I fired a friends sig229 in .357sig and was hooked,but for a comfortable concealed carry piece I would love to have an hk p7m13,hk stopped making them so the prices have skyrocketed,its only a 9mm but super reliable and very accurate

[Jim Roof]

Another one of my favorites is my remington 700vtr in .223,I'm fn up woodchucks @ 300yds all day long,but ant remy 700 is a good rifle,put good glass on it and its a damn fine weapon hands down!!!

[kyledarby]

I think it's an interesting concept when you question the effectiveness of a round. For instance you always hear people say 40cal and 45cal are good rounds but a 9mm isn't very reliable. I find this intriguing because all three have affective stopping power. What should come into question is the marksman and their ability not the round. Just some food for thought.

[Jim Roof]

9mm is a good round,but its the smallest round I would carry for defense....I have an uncle who is a cop in chicago,and he told me a story about an officer involved shooting in the early 90's where a pcp crazed bodybuilder rushed him and three other officers with a baseball bat,they all had department issue beretta 9mm's,this guy was shot 6 times including two headshots and he still hit one of them in the face with the bat before he dropped over dead. After that my uncle traded in his 9mm for a beretta 96fs .40,

[Jeff Janes]

My left or right arm. But If we're talking real firearms, I have the conceal and carry judge called the public defender. There is nothing like putting a shot gun in a pocket holster and no one even having a clue. 45 long colt and 410 shotgun shells with tons of options. I also love my custom cig p229.

[kyledarby]

Jan 28, 2012 10:07:38 GMT -5 Jim Roof said:

9mm is a good round,but its the smallest round I would carry for defense....I have an uncle who is a cop in chicago,and he told me a story about an officer involved shooting in the early 90's where a pcp crazed bodybuilder rushed him and three other officers with a baseball bat,they all had department issue beretta 9mm's,this guy was shot 6 times including two headshots and he still hit one of them in the face with the bat before he dropped over dead. After that my uncle traded in his 9mm for a beretta 96fs .40,

I attribute that more to the laws of physics than the ballistics of the round. I'm sure you have heard of the 50ft rule. The distance is continuously increasing. With drugs humans get put their body through mind boggling feats. I suppose that's why it's so crucial when engaging a threat to not remain stationary. Flank the threat and if at all possible put barriers between you.