Jim Roof
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Jan 29, 2012 17:43:08 GMT -5
Post by Jim Roof on Jan 29, 2012 17:43:08 GMT -5
Kyle do a google image search for taurus raging judge revolver,its a 5 shot 28gauge revolver,the fn thing is huge,its a hand howitzer,its gotta b pretty intense firing slugs outta that thing! But imagine the how it would make you feel if you were on the other end,its definitly an intimidating piece of steel that's for sure!!
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Jim Roof
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Jan 29, 2012 18:03:15 GMT -5
Post by Jim Roof on Jan 29, 2012 18:03:15 GMT -5
Brian,when the pmr first started showing up on magazine covers I thought it was a .30carbine,only to later find out its a .22mag. The .30 carbine was originally a pistol cartridge,but you don't see many pistols chambered for it,like ten years ago I got to fire an amt 1911 clone in .30carbine and it was really cool,but if you fired it for more than a few hundred rounds it became a jam-o-matic,the problem was the machining tolerances were too tight and the excess powder plugged up the works,but it was a cool gun regardless,I'll probably wait for the rmr to come out and get one.my dad carried an m2 carbine (select fire m1 carbine)in nam and said it was the most reliable weapon he ever used,even still today he says he would rather have an m1 carbine than any m4,ak,or ar
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Jim Roof
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Jan 29, 2012 18:16:06 GMT -5
Post by Jim Roof on Jan 29, 2012 18:16:06 GMT -5
Jim are you reffering to the 454l raging bull? Not sure if that's the one made by Taurus. I saw one at Sportsman it's classified as a revolver but should be a cannon. Imagine Clint Eastwood pistol whipping someone with that! I had a taurus raging bull 44mag and my foreman has one in 454casull,and to be honest I got rid of mine after a month,I hated it! I wanted one so bad,hoping for it to kick like a mule....aside from the deafening muzzleblast (ported barrel standard) it was like shooting a 9mm,the weight of the gun and the ported barrel make it shootable for anybody. If u want to shoot a 44mag that will rattle your fillings out,go shoot the smith and wesson 327pd...this gun is a bad mother!!!
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Jan 29, 2012 19:34:41 GMT -5
Post by Josh Dale on Jan 29, 2012 19:34:41 GMT -5
I voted pistol because I can have it on my person most of the time, you can plink around with one fairly cheap (Ruger Mark III Hunter), and I don't have to worry/worry less about it going through said bad guy and killing 3 people in N. St. Louis (where I'm most likely to ever need it).
My brother is a 1911 guy but I can't get enough of the plastics myself! Love me some Glock 30 and 19! I also shoot much better with his S&W M&P than his 1911 with all the mods. He just shakes his head and laughs at me.
I enjoy looking at ARs but everytime I get ready to buy one I think: what am I going to do with it? Plinking is a little spendy, I live in a subdivision so there's no way I'm going to use that for home defense, and it's really not much of a hunting rifle. I'll probably get one eventually though heh heh
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Jim Roof
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Jan 29, 2012 21:02:53 GMT -5
Post by Jim Roof on Jan 29, 2012 21:02:53 GMT -5
Josh if you are a hunter,you can get an ar already set up for varmint hunting,various calibers .223,.204,.243,throw some good glass on it,then in the off season you can put boot to ass on some woodchucks,prairiedogs,and coyotes. Its pretty amazing what a 55 grain slug from a.223 will do to a woodchuck at 300yds.
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Jan 30, 2012 10:39:48 GMT -5
Post by John Wilson on Jan 30, 2012 10:39:48 GMT -5
Good stuff, guys.
The rifle I always thought had a ton of potential, but never came to be realized, is the Handy Rifle concept. I think it is New England Arms (formerly H&R ?) that makes it. It's ultra basic. It's a break-open single shot just like all of their shotguns, but it is chambered for a rifle round. Thompson Center makes a ton of top notch variants, but they never took it to the extreme and went full-on sniper with it.
To my thinking, this would be the ultimate poor man's sniper rifle (for plinking, obviously) if only they would fit a top notch barrel such as a Hart or Lilja match barrel, properly headspaced for the round. I just don't understand why this wouldn't be the most accurate rifle ever made. The break-barrel design can only lock up in one position and has the potential to be even more repeatable than a bolt action lockup since there can be no feed issue since you put the bullet into the chamber with your fingers. There's no way to damage to the bullet profile because it isn't being driven into the chamber by force as it makes an up-and-forward motion.
The lockup should be perfect every time. The scope would be mounted to the barrel, so no misalignment there. There is no form of gas operation, so no change in pressures or feed like a semi auto.
Thy only obstacle I see to it being the ultimate tack driver is that by design you can't float the barrel, but if the forearm was mounted to an oversized barrel locking lug, maybe a Weaver rail mounted to the bottom where the chamber is, it could be stiff enough that upward pressure from rest shouldn't affect it any undue amount. Nobody floats a bolt action all the way to the receiver, anyway. The chamber profile is almost always glass bedded or pillar bedded on aluminum, so what's the difference?
You could put an insanely fine match trigger on it because it can't fire until you cock the hammer manually. It can't misfire, and if it did it would be pointed downrange anyway. I'm talking a true paper-puncher here, not something that would require operational / tactical robustness.
I don't get it. Why has nobody made this rifle?
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Jim Roof
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Jan 30, 2012 17:27:40 GMT -5
Post by Jim Roof on Jan 30, 2012 17:27:40 GMT -5
One of the guys I work with has friends in canada that swear by ruger no1 rifles for everything from bear to punching paper,but he told me they said "its hard working mans rifle,and accurate to boot",I guess that's a similar concept john
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Post by John Wilson on Jan 30, 2012 21:28:44 GMT -5
That must mean it kicks like a mule! LOL
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Jan 31, 2012 1:48:15 GMT -5
Post by Mat Helmer on Jan 31, 2012 1:48:15 GMT -5
Hey Mat Helmer, resident Air Gun expert.... (or anyone who would like to answer) Do you have a recommendation for an accurate air rifle in the $100 range? I tried a Gamo and was seriously disappointed in the accuracy. I really don't want anything I have to pump, or anything that takes C02 cartriges, so I'm leaning towards a break-barrel action. Suggestions? I have the Avanti 753 www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Daisy_Avanti_753/144 At 30 yards, you can put pellets through the same hole but it's a $400 rifle. For $100... hmmm. Not sure? Maybe this www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Daisy_Powerline_953_TargetPro_Target_Sights/2610There was a Chinese side-lever single stroke pneumatic that I really wanted to get but they discontinued it. It was similar to a BSA Model 75. Ultimately, I'll get my hands on one of these - Feinwerkbau 300S. www.airguns.net/reviews_fwb300s.php
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Jan 31, 2012 2:00:50 GMT -5
Post by Mat Helmer on Jan 31, 2012 2:00:50 GMT -5
I agree with John, the MP5 has to be one of the most accurate and controllable guns ever! Some years ago, we got the chance to spend a Saturday at the range SE of Ottawa, where the RCMP used to train the Anti-Terrorism Unit (before that job became JTF2's) and with the MP5, you could draw faces on the targets.
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Jan 31, 2012 2:10:01 GMT -5
Post by Mat Helmer on Jan 31, 2012 2:10:01 GMT -5
As for real guns... the FN FAL and M1A/M14 would be my choice. Handguns... a GLOCK 21 or S&W Model 629.
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Post by John Wilson on Jan 31, 2012 6:49:28 GMT -5
Thanks Mat. I figured I was expecting too much for $100.
I love all things FN. The SPR A3 is a fantastic rifle. It's everything I would do to a Remington 700. And it already comes that way from the FN factory.
People used to look down on Grendel, but Kel Tec bought them and is now turning out some really good guns. Fantastic guns for the price range.
Once upon a time Taurus was considered junk (80s). They have become a leader in top notch guns. I love Taurus designs.
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Jan 31, 2012 7:53:03 GMT -5
Post by Josh Dale on Jan 31, 2012 7:53:03 GMT -5
I wish Glock would make a single stack 5.7. I love the round but the pistol just feels like junk. The location of the safety is horrible and when I read that the slide was actually made of sheet metal, that was the final straw,
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Dec 10, 2015 15:45:11 GMT -5
Post by Dayne Roark on Dec 10, 2015 15:45:11 GMT -5
Hard to vote on based on the different situations many types of guns are needed for!
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Oct 26, 2017 15:09:32 GMT -5
Post by Kyle Darby on Oct 26, 2017 15:09:32 GMT -5
CZ scorpion evo is the truth
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