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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Nov 24, 2004 13:00:52 GMT -5
I thought Travis was GOD. OH yeah, he is the KING!!!
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Post by Ryan Thames on Nov 24, 2004 13:00:52 GMT -5
I agree with you. It shouldnt be that way.
Before i continue. Cousin lets kill this horse before it bites us both.
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Nov 24, 2004 13:01:36 GMT -5
;D ;D ;D according to Amedo..... ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Ryan Thames on Nov 24, 2004 13:01:53 GMT -5
Christian,
Your a nut ;D
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Post by enginterzi on Nov 24, 2004 13:03:30 GMT -5
ok but do you think both of us will be enough to do that?
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Post by Ryan Thames on Nov 24, 2004 13:04:57 GMT -5
Probably not but lets try.
;D
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Post by Ryan Thames on Nov 24, 2004 13:06:35 GMT -5
At least we both agree that god is perfect in everyway he is holy and full of grace and mercy.
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Post by enginterzi on Nov 24, 2004 13:08:15 GMT -5
lets quit cousin,because i have much respect for your understanding and i dont want it to change because of my more posts.but i would never kill a family just because the man of the family attacked on me.killing soldiers are acceptable in the war but will you understand if same thing happens to your homeland?
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Post by Ryan Thames on Nov 24, 2004 13:08:52 GMT -5
Lets try to atleast change the direction of the subject. ;D
How do you feel about the U.N. trying to bring all religions under one banner a One World Religion. Saying we all worship The same God and we all have our own way to him.
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Post by enginterzi on Nov 24, 2004 13:11:31 GMT -5
its better than killing eachother because of having different faiths.it cant be under one umbrella but its great to have a good relationship between them.at least we all believe in GOD.there are many that they dont believe that one day we all will be at presence of GOD for what we have been doing.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Nov 24, 2004 13:14:38 GMT -5
Well that is were i like to examine when jesus said that if a man smite you cheeck to turn to the other.
alot of people think that mean that you should let people beat on you but i dont agree with that. Im not soooooo much of a pacifist that i would just let someone beat on me. i would defend myself. but lets look at it if a man hits me ill let him hit me and i will forgive him (this has happened before) but if he continues to hit me i must stop him regardless of what it takes, preferably the least dangerous way. If the man hits me and stops and then i retaliate then i am acting out of anger and revenge and i dont believe that is god will. God is full of Grace and mercy but he does have a Wrathful side people dont like to talk about.
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Post by enginterzi on Nov 24, 2004 13:16:06 GMT -5
cousin,i must leave for its getting late here and i must eat and sleep.i thank you very much for showing a great understanding to discuss your faith against someone who openly told you his thoughts.you are a great example for your religion as a member.thx a lot and take care of your friendly self
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Post by Ryan Thames on Nov 24, 2004 13:25:07 GMT -5
As far as the one religion thing i think that is very dangerous.
What you believe you believe to be truth.
What i believe i believe to be truth.
I like this phrase : Never sacrifice Truth for peace or you might lose both.
I would never kill anyone to get my point accross but i would put my life on the line to get my point across. I believe you and i can co-exist with different faiths but we must identify that they are different. i dont want to kill you for your beliefs but if you try to kill me for mine i must defend myself. And i dont think you would kill to get your point accross but i would expect you to do the same if some one tries to rape you of your god given right to a freedom of religion. freedom of religion is not just an american thing.
I know that the U.N. is trying to bring all religion under one banner and the only religoins that will not be represented is the Evangelical Christian and any other" fundamentalists religions who do not compromise the truth of their religoin for peace. and becuase of this we will be considered intolerant and eventually we will be pushed underground for our beliefs as some countries kill people still today for being christian. and others put them in jail for preaching against homosexuality. my country is trying to make it illegal to preach that homosexuality is sin and in california it is already punishible for hate crimes.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Nov 24, 2004 13:27:14 GMT -5
Thank you for your respect given. I enjoyed it. Hopefully Chris Meyers will see that im not as intolerant as he thinks i am. ;D  Your cousin in faith Ryan |
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Post by Christopher Myers on Nov 24, 2004 13:47:06 GMT -5
Ryan,
I am truly impressed and Grateful. You have shown Engin a lot of respect listening to his alternative points of view. I allready knew Engin was a muslim and that he reads all the posts on these boards. he was one of the people who I thought might be offended.when I stuck my two cents in in the begining. I am ecstatic that Engin is open minded and engaged in a respectful debate and I am very very impressed with his knowledge of history and how the books of the bible came together. I also knew of the many books ( Gospel's ) that were destroyed. My personal beleifs I share with anyman who asks. I am and will be happy to share them with you Ryan and you Engin any time. You are both men of good moral fiber and I am proud to participate in spiritual learning. I have read the Koran and some of the Torah and i like to find the common denominters in all religions instead of the differences and embrace all human being as my brothers and sisters. Thankyou Ryan for listening respectfully to alternate points of view I hope they bring you knowledge and ultimately closer to God. again I say sorry if we got off on the wrong foot but you do have my respect
Christopher Myers
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