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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 21, 2005 15:18:51 GMT -5
What MORMONISM (Latter-day Saints) believe about....
FOUNDER Joseph Smith, jr. (1805-1844), founded the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (LDS) in 1830 in New York. Head Quarters in Salt Lake City, Utah
WRITINGS The Book of Mormon; Doctrine of Covenants; Pearl of Great Price; the Bible (King James Version only or Smith's "Inspired Version") authoritative teachings of Mormon Prophets and other LDS "general authorities"
GOD God the father was once a man, but "progressed" to godhood. He has a physical body, as does his wife (Heavenly Mother). No Trinity. Father SOn and Holy Ghost are three seperate gods. Worthy men may one day become gods themselves.
JESUS Jesus is a seperate god from the Father (Elohim). He was created as a spirit child by the Father and Mother in Heaven, and is the "elder brother" of all men and spirit beings. His body was created through sexual union between Elohim and Mary. Jesus was married. His deathon the cross does not provide full atonement for all sin, but does provide everyone with ressurrection.
HOLY SPIRIT The "holy spirit" is different from the "Holy Ghost". The holy spirit is not God, but is an influence or electricity-like emanation from God (or "light of Christ")
SALVATION Resurrected by grace, but saved (exalted to godhood) by works, including faithfulness to church leaders, Mormon baptism, tithing, ordination, marriage, and secret temple rituals. No eternal life without Mormon membership.
DEATH Eventually nearly everyone goes to one of three seperate heavenly "kingdoms," with some acheiving godhood. Apostates and murders go to "outer darkness."
OTHER BELIEFS No alcohol, tobacco, coffe, or tea. Baptism on behalf of the dead. Two-year missionary commitment encouraged. Door-to-door proselytizing. Secret temple rituals available only to members in good standing. Extensive social network. People of African ancestry were not granted full access to Mormon priesthood and privelages untill 1978.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 21, 2005 15:19:31 GMT -5
BIBLICAL CHRISTIANITY
Key Person or Founder, Date, Location
Jesus Christ. Founded about ad 30-33, in the judean province Palestine (Israel Today), under the Roman Empire. Followers of Jesus Christ became known as Christians
Key Writings
Th Bible, written originally in Hebrew and Aramaic (Old Testament), and Greek (New Testament)
Who Is God?
The one God is Triune(One God in three persons, not three gods):Father, Son and, Holy Spirit. Often the title "God" Designates the first Person, God the Father. God is a spiritual being without a physical body. He is personal and involved with people. He Created the universe out of nothing. He is eternal, changless, holy, loving, and perfect.
Who is Jesus?
Jesus is God, the second person in the Trinity. As God th Son, He has always exsisted and never was created. He is fully God and fully man (the two natures joined, not mixed). As the second Person of the Trinity, He is coequal with God the Father and the Holy Spirit. In becoming man, He was begotten Through the holy spirit and born of the virgin Mary. Jesus is the only way to the Father, salvation , and eternal life. He died on a cross according to God's Plan, as full sacrifice and payment for our sins. He rose from the dead on the third day, spiritualy and physically immortal. For the next forty days He was seen by more than 500 eyewitnesses. His wounds were touched and He ate meals. He Physically ascended to Heaven. Jesus will come again visibly and physicaly at the end of the world to establish God's kingdom and judge the world.
Who is the Holy Spirit?
The Holy Spirit is God, the third person of the Trinity. The Holy Spirit is a person, not a force or energy field. He comforts, greives reproves, convicts, guides, teaches, and fills Christians. He is not the Father, nor is he the Son , Jesus Christ.
How to Be Saved.
Salvation is by God's grace, not by an individual's good works. alvation mut be receivedby faith. People must believe in their hearts that Jesus died for their sins and physically rose again, wich is the assurance of forgiveness and resurrection of the body. This is God's loving plan to forgive sinful people.
What Happen After Death.
Believers go to be with Jesus. after death, all people await the final Judgment. Both saved and lost people will be resurrected. those who are saved will with Jesus in Heaven. Those who are lost will suffer the torment of eternal seperation from God (Hell). Jesus' bodily resurrection guarantees believers that they, too, will be resurrected and receive new immortal bodies.
Other Facts, Beliefs, or Practices
Group worship, usually in churches. so secret rites. baptism and Lord's Supper (Communion). Active voluntary missionary efforts. Aid to those in need: the poor, widows, orphans, and downtrodden. Christians believe tht Jesus is the Jewish Messiah promised to Isreal in the Old Testament(tanakh). Jesus said His followers would be known by their love for one another.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 21, 2005 15:19:51 GMT -5
They get holy undergarments after completing temple rituals and they must have them on at ALL times. even when bathing. This is a practice of Witchcraft.
In there temples they have inverted pentagrams on the walls. Witchcraft.
The average mormon cannot enter the temples due to secretive reasons. They must first complet temple rituals which include several death oaths. YOu have to be a pretty special mormon to be granted permission to enter. Its pretty rare someone can be granted this privelage.
Joseph smith looked through seer stones (crystal ball type rocks) In order to translate the tablets of moroni. (witchcraft)
You can go to New York and pul up criminal records on Joseph smith for using Witchcraft to con people out of money.
Moroni the angel of light (satan can come as an angel of light accordin to the bible) That showed Joseph smith where the tablets were, Was (according to the mormon teaching) a man who lived around the times of the tower of babel He was the last to live from the tribe of the Nehivites his name was Mormon. He wrote on tablets the teachings of mormonism. He hid them in three parts of the earth one being New York. These tablets were in solid gold and Joseph smith carryed them to his house and translated them using the seer stones. The Translation was needed becuase these tablets were written in Egyption Hyroglyphics.
Question If Mormon was a righteous mormon who was a Jew why would he have written in egyption? Jews write in Hebrew.
According to the Mormon religion Mormon was a Righteous Mormon. And righteous mormons become gods of there own planet. after there reincarnation or ressurrection. Yet Mormon came to Joseph smith as an angel? Shouldnt he be a god on another planet? Mormon died and became an angel renamed Moroni.
The satanic bible written by anton leveigh writes that Mormon is the God of the Ghouls(Living Dead).
Here Satan is claiming this cult and yet people are still decieved by it, thinking it is just another branch of christianity. Though mormons believe christianity is the corruption of mormonism. And during their missions they have to visit a cult such as any christian church.
When a mormon is baptized they are baptized not in the name of christ as christians are but in the name a a dead person (God of the Ghouls). They have many other odd and strange practices concerning the dead.
They believe that Jesus did not atone for all sins.
3sins that they believe he did not cover are
1: Apostosy: according to mormons is the falling away from mormonism.
2: Adultery: Dont worry about commiting this sin its pretty hard due to the fact that mormons practice polygamy you want to have sex with someone who isnt your wife just marry them. its ok. Of course they dont acknowledge this legally becuase they will go to jail.
3 Marrying an african-american: Joseph Smith was obviously a racist. He taught that When Jesus and Lucifer (who, according to the mormon teaching, were brothers) fought over who was going to preach mormonism on earth jesus won the fight and threw lucifer to earth and a third of the angels came with him and populated the earth as african americans and other non-white races. sounds kinda like the KKK?
The only way to atone for these sins (becuase jesus didnt cover it) is by the sheding of your blood were as your family or other mormons cut your throat.
I know and am aware people will deny these truths of mormonism due to ignorance of there religion and/or as a result of a death oath that if they tell anyone they are to be put to death.
During a temple wedding the bride is sworn to take a death oath. if she tells anyone about the ceromony she is to be killed. Hows that for family values?
The pressure on a woman to marry a mormon is intense becuase according to their teaching it is her husband that calls her from the dead. (god of ghouls) So she better cook good and not complain about him marrying other women.
JOSEPH SMITH IS NOT A PROPHET OF GOD He is a false prophet and this is one of the most obvious satanic and demonic and ridiculous cults/occults and satan sits back and laughs at those who are caught in it. But people dont have to be bound by it becuase the truth is that Jesus is God and he died on the cross and was ressurected. For ALL of our sins. that we might have life and have it more abundant and eternally. the power of the blood of Christ is sufficient to draw you out of such bondage. The love of Christ is so pure that you dont have to be under such pressure.
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Post by Steven Lareau on Jan 21, 2005 15:21:22 GMT -5
Did anyone see that South Park episode where everyone is in hell and it's announced that all major religions were in fact wrong........and mormonism was the right one? Boy I love South Park.....
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 21, 2005 15:35:52 GMT -5
sounds great I think south park is a holy mouth peice for peace and love and family values................
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 21, 2005 15:37:38 GMT -5
For the record im not going to try not to "argue" with anyone about these truths. I just felt the need to expose this.
I do however think the holy underwear thing is quite humorous. and a true fact.
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Post by simon on Jan 21, 2005 16:15:17 GMT -5
Steven I did see that episode and that was damn funny particularly considering that here in the states the Mormon church for the most part believes that if you are not Mormon you are going straight to hell. I did find out that this sentiment is not held internationally, a very well educated and intelligent armwrestler from another country that is Mormon educated me on the differences between the Mormon church in the US and abroad.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 21, 2005 16:39:52 GMT -5
The mormon church was founded in the US
And the teachings have changed over 4,000 times to suit the legal and social enviroment
4,000 is an awfull lot for a religion founded only a lil over 100 years ago.
Truth is absolute and does not change OBVIOUSLY this is not truth!
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Post by Steven Lareau on Jan 21, 2005 17:04:07 GMT -5
sounds great I think south park is a holy mouth peice for peace and love and family values................ haha you're funny Ryan..... don't all good christian families sit down together after dinner and watch South Park? ;D
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 21, 2005 17:22:31 GMT -5
uuummmmmm......NO! I think i did flip through the channels one night and saw the episode your refering to though. I dont remember i changed it rather quick.
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Post by Harold "Rattlesnake" Ryden on Jan 21, 2005 18:51:33 GMT -5
The Pope is sitting in his chambers when all of a sudden the BIG RED PHONE rings. He jumps in a hurry to answer it...Hello God, he says. God replies, John, I have some good news, and I have some bad news, which would you like to hear first? The Pope says well the good news of coarse. God says, ok, I am fed up with all the mumbo jumbo, all these different religions and all these cults, I am abolishing all of them. The Pope cries, thats great God...then what is the bad news, God replies, Im calling you from Salt Lake City. I still get a kick out of that one. ;D
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 21, 2005 18:55:00 GMT -5
Harold my friend i grew up with i told you about a while back is a mormon. Who has apparently gone through the temple rituals. Got married in your area
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Post by simon on Jan 21, 2005 19:02:18 GMT -5
I don’t have any religious jokes that I could put on here. That is damn funny Harold.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 21, 2005 19:04:28 GMT -5
I still think its funny about the holy underwear ;D
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Post by Elaine Blik on Jan 21, 2005 23:09:38 GMT -5
You should try living in the "thick of it"... and not being one.. hmmmmm
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