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Post by STEVE PHIPPS on Jan 26, 2005 1:09:04 GMT -5
Olin,
I'm a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
I also know who it was that went on the mission and I like Simon decline to say who it was. I sent him an email to congratulate him for his selflessness. Not a lot of young men of 19 that are more concerned about serving others than looking out for # 1. I know I wasn't at that age.
But I'm sure you could look at the old posts and find out. He posted it very clearly.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 26, 2005 8:11:47 GMT -5
I have the author of a book written in a notebook ill get back to you with im on my way to school right now. This author was deep in the mormon religion and they gave their live to Jesus and he set them free from the lies and bondage. If you are educated in true christianity you will find that the bible says no man will see the father unless he comes throught the san and that no man will enter the kingdom of heaven except through the son. and that becuase of the sin of man the only way we can have a relationship through the blood of Christ. True Christianity teaches that the only way to heaven and to the Father is through the son. outside of that there is no other place to go but hell. No i dont think your going to hell for hunting easter eggs  |
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Post by Chris Coletti on Jan 26, 2005 8:41:21 GMT -5
What a coincidence, We had a couple very smartly dressed pleasant young men come to our door this past Sunday from The Church Of Latter Day Saints. It was during the Patriots game so I asked them to come back on Monday and I wuld be glad to welcome them in and speak about any issues they wish to discuss. They have yet to return but I truly hope they do. It is always healthy to discuss differences in opinion about an issue like this without resorting to insults. As most can tell you we could be in my living room for hours.  Ryan I have a question for you and my brother Harold. What happens to the people who have never had a chance to be introduced to Christ? I am talking about third world countries. People who live in metal or wooden shacks with no windows? I know we offer missions to get the word out but what happens to those we don't reach? Do you believe hey all perish? |
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 26, 2005 13:52:03 GMT -5
Chris,
God has put in EVERY man the ability to know God.
There were many stories after we went into Iraq of many muslims who have never had the gospel preached to them, how they had dreasm and visions of christ and they gave their lives to him.
We as christians are responsible for getting that gospel out there if we knowingly do not the blood is on our hands. This si one reason i feel the obligation to expose the truth of any false religion to the best of my ability.
Until a man realize he is lost he can never be found.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 26, 2005 17:17:41 GMT -5
this is a good one to.... very clearly adaptable to the mormon situation. 9for the record this is not the revised version written by Joseph Smith) this is before Jospeh Smith "revised" the bible in order to con people (which is what he was accused of criminally in New York)
(NKJV) Galations 1:6-9
6. I marvel that you are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7. Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
isnt it strange that the mormons clearly come in the name of "ANOTHER TESTAMENT OF JESUS CHRIST" and that the Jesus of the mormons is the brother of lucifer this is not what the bible teaches this is obviously another Jesus. There fore according to the bible JOSEPH SMITH IS ACCURSED!
Also the angel "Moroni": Paul warned the galatians that if an Angel from heaven teach you of another Gosple let him be accursed!
Clearly according to the bible
JOSEPH SMITH IS ACCURSED
MORONI IS ACCURSED
THE BOOK OF MORMON or THE NEW TESTAMENT OF JESUS CHRIST IS ACCURSED.
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Post by gambit on Jan 27, 2005 11:16:05 GMT -5
Ryan, whatever your belief may be, aren't you judging? Shame, shame, shame.
The Mormon Church is, and has been, helping my mother through some tough financial times. Not only that, they are blessing her for the sickness she is going through. I am not a Mormon, I used to be when I was a child, but I am not going to belittle those who are helping - whatever their beliefs. KWIM?
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 27, 2005 11:35:24 GMT -5
2 Timothy 3:15. And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17. That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
If any "judgement" is being made by me on this matter it is a biblical one.
In fact we are told in John to make such righteous judgement
John7:24. Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
not according to the appearance becuase according to the appearance it seems holsum and nice but by its fruits and teaching it is satanic at its core
BEWARE WHO YOU ALLOW TO "BLESS" YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. very dangerous.
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Post by Steven Lareau on Jan 27, 2005 16:20:16 GMT -5
BEWARE WHO YOU ALLOW TO "BLESS" YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. very dangerous. I'll remember this next time I have to sneeze |
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 27, 2005 16:20:39 GMT -5
what are you talking about? .........oh very funny |
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Post by Steven Lareau on Jan 27, 2005 16:21:42 GMT -5
You know when people say "bless you" after you sneeze.....
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 27, 2005 16:22:52 GMT -5
yea i caught it after i replyed
the board delayed or somthing it ddint show your whole post at first
Very Funny ;D
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Post by Steve Kirlew on Jan 29, 2005 8:41:09 GMT -5
I'm a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I'm not inteligent enough to answer all of the points that have been raised but i do know that some people on this board have many un-true ideas about my faith although some are true but twisted and looked at from a one sided perspective. All i can say is that i know that Jesus Christ is my savour and that through His atonement i can become clean from sin and feel his redeeming love in my heart. When i follow the Lord i feel great and when i don't i don't. What is the problem here??
I don't want to get into a big heated argument about this like Ryan and Engin did because i believe this isn't going to get us anywhere.
I know that God lives and loves me, and that's the most important thing to me! ;D
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Post by Steve Kirlew on Jan 29, 2005 8:42:59 GMT -5
The young man that went on his mission for the Church is Matt Preston and he's a great guy. He's my training partner and i'll miss him. I also served a mission for the church for 2 years but i can still go to Heaven is i didn't! |
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Post by Chris Coletti on Jan 29, 2005 9:25:05 GMT -5
Ok this is a very interesting point and one that I would like to hear discussed. It sounds like Steve is saying that he accepts Jesus into his heart and understands that through His death we have been saved . It also shows in his post that he has absolute love for Jesus. Is this not a saving statement based on the belief of most Christians? Does this make him not a Mormon? Ryan just so I get prepared where are we going next? How about the Lutherins!!!  ? JK |
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 29, 2005 11:57:11 GMT -5
Yes it sounds like you accept Jesus but is your Jesus the brother of Lucifer? thats not biblical. Does your Jesus atone for every sin? Accept of course the total denial Jesus The Father and the Holy Spirit and everything he is. Do you believe in the blood atonement doctrine? Written by Joseph Smith? and preached by Bringham Young. teammaine.proboards23.com/index.cgi?board=offtopic&action=display&thread=1106887372this is nothing more than murder promoted and demanded by the church of mormon and is still practiced today. Do you think its strange that in the mormon temples there are ZERO christian symbols yet there are multiple satanic and withcraft symbols? If my veiw is one sided, I try my best to be absolutly biblical, so if im on key with my one sided biblical view then why would someone who loves Jesus be on the other side? What parts of my veiw on mormonism are twisted? Please explain i do not want to be in error. I have yet for anyone to put up an argument against these things. other than simple denial of them. someone please explain to me why these things are in your religion and why you believe them? |
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