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Post by Harold "Rattlesnake" Ryden on Jul 29, 2010 17:21:16 GMT -5
Is Everyone Going to Hell???..... I reserve eternal judgement strictly to the Lord. Do I think everyone else should go to Hell??? No. I do not believe ANYONE deserves to go to Hell... Everyone have a great day!!! I couldnt agree more!!! I want everyone to go to Heaven!!!
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Post by kyledarby on Jul 29, 2010 21:10:13 GMT -5
Religion kills people like butter knives made Rosie Odonell fat!
Lot's of people have died in the worlds existence. Millions of people have been victims of tragedy. But masking mistaken concepts with false labels doesn't change the facts. If someone chooses not to believe in Christ and God's plan that is simply their free will. Nothing comes without a price. Few rewarding actions come from little sacrifice. God's define plan rewards those that put continuous effort into it. I think people need to step back and not judge God and individuals based on other individuals actions. God doesn't fault you for others decisions so why must you fault him the same. I'm an American and I love my country. I don't approve of every Americans decisions. But they are still Americans and I'm still an American. I'm just not liable for their actions. Think of Christianity the same. It's ones personal relationship with Christ. Just as all Americans are not identical the same is true about Christians. Don't get caught up in masks such as, language, interpretation, labels, and various other sources that contaminate the underlying purpose.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 29, 2010 21:23:42 GMT -5
Call me stupid but I'm really not following you.
What are you saying?
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Post by kyledarby on Jul 29, 2010 21:49:45 GMT -5
Ryan,
None of my statements were directed at you or anything you said. I just wish people that don't believe in God would simply say I don't believe in God. Instead of fixating on denominations, misrepresentations, translations and various other sources to discredit God and his existence. Further more I believe that a lot of good people miss out on oppurtunity by making things too complex. If one can simplify their relationship with God it can still be fulfilling. God wants people to succeed contrary to popular belief. If you communicate with, study, love, grow, and model yourself in God he will bless you. There are multiple pieces of pie. But if you only have cherries and flour you still don't have a whole cherry pie. Think of God like water metaphorically speaking. Water has simplicity and at the same time many layers. One can admire it's beauty or take contrast in it's many purposes. It can be as simple as rain or as awesome as the ocean. Though it has multiple names and titles it still is water. While every single person depends on water no two people have completely identical relationships with it. There are common ties and multiple similarities but no two relationships are the same. Does that make sense?
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Post by Michael Wells on Jul 29, 2010 21:52:47 GMT -5
Religion kills people like butter knives made Rosie Odonell fat! Lot's of people have died in the worlds existence. Millions of people have been victims of tragedy. But masking mistaken concepts with false labels doesn't change the facts. If someone chooses not to believe in Christ and God's plan that is simply their free will. Nothing comes without a price. Few rewarding actions come from little sacrifice. God's define plan rewards those that put continuous effort into it. I think people need to step back and not judge God and individuals based on other individuals actions. God doesn't fault you for others decisions so why must you fault him the same. I'm an American and I love my country. I don't approve of every Americans decisions. But they are still Americans and I'm still an American. I'm just not liable for their actions. Think of Christianity the same. It's ones personal relationship with Christ. Just as all Americans are not identical the same is true about Christians. Don't get caught up in masks such as, language, interpretation, labels, and various other sources that contaminate the underlying purpose. Kyle, your correct about peoples choices and their free will. Gods (I'm thinking you meant "devine" plan) devine plan rewards people who put effort to His plan. Judging God doesn't matter, well cause He's God. Bible says to test Him though. I feel you need to judging people based on their actions. Not in a condemning way but a Christ-like attitude. As a Christian, I tend to judge other Christians in that manner (I try too though). Also, as a Christian (under construction), I would hope Ryan and other Christians would do the same for me. Let me know where I'm going wrong and hold me accountable. In the same note, if your not a Christian and see money hungry preachers and hypocrite Christians, please don't assume that's how all Christians act. Like you said, it's all about someones personal relationship with Christ. We just can't confuse "relationship" for "convenience".
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 30, 2010 6:34:48 GMT -5
Yes Kyle,
That made more sense.
Lol
" Wata when put into a paht, becomz de paht.
Wata when put into a bowl becomz de bowl
Wata when put into a gwass becomz De gwass.
Be wata my fwend"
Wise words of Bruce Lee!!
Lol
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