for all the crazy george and cadorette haters

[Rob Vigeant Jr.]

Anyhow, I'll let it be
On another note Neil, I'd like this to be the year I come your way, got my passport and would be looking at the summer or after.
I have a few guys I'd like a crack at, that's another thread down the road.... Just food for thought, Take care bud.

[mactelle]

Bottom Line is that Michael Todd is a Champion!!

He is a great puller, whether or not you agree with his style is your opinion, but that does not change the fact that Michael Todd is One of the best Pullers in the World....I have 3 favorite pullers and one of them is Michael Todd.

To be honest I have not followed George too much, I have see alot of his matches and he is crazy strong.
George is pretty darn impressive.
And Jerry C. Is just too awesome for words...

I think instead of complaining about someones armwrestling style, why not learn how to master using their style against them..This thread should have stopped 3 pages ago....

[Neil Pickup]

Heard that Rob and you know that I'd GLADLY OBLIGE mate

Later lad

Cheers

Neil

[Eric Roussin]

Is the shoulder below the table foul still a rule? I couldn't find it in the rules posted on the WAF site:

www.worldarmwrestlingfederation.com/documents/rules.pdf

A previous version of the rules states:

"2) Competitors cannot drop the competing shoulder below the level of the elbow pad when in a neutral or losing position. This will be considered a dangerous position.
The neutral position defined as the starting position down to 2/3 of the way to the losing side of the table.
The humorous bone of the competing arm will not be inclined down and therefore elevating the elbow and dropping the shoulder below the elbow pad."

Interesting to note that the foul doesn't just apply to the losing position, but the neutral position as well.

[Brent Norris]

Shake, shake, shake your $ maker, shake it like you're shaking it for some paper, shake it like somebody's about to pay ya, don't worry bout them haters keep your nose up in the air.

[John Parton]

I want to make a little comment about the flopped wrist style. I am not personall a flopped wrist puller, but IMO that is pure armwrestling since you have no hand leverage at all and are at a HUGE disadvantage to anyone who knows what to do . Most pullers who have been around very long have wound up in that position and certainly wouldn't want the match called right then as it was long ago for a while. If someone can pull from there and pin there opponent more power to them ;D. I agree with Todd about no more rules. Anthony D manages to beat George with some regularity and Michael has losses to. Shall we make a rule that someone who has a baseball mitt sized hand can't toproll next. I personally like that idea now that I have mentioned it

[Devon Larratt]

i honestly don't think its about the injury when you boil everything down.. the injury is limiting these atheletes in many other ways as well - as in their ability to train hard and make gains without crazy arthritis pain, atrophy due to decreased ROM..
I think that people like to smash a stone when they should just go around it..

and i really think Brent nailed it there^^^^

[Neil Pickup]

Brent is a Bad Mutha Fluffa ;D

[Dante Dall'Antonia]

In competition do what ever it takes to win even if it aint nice to watch.

[Robert Miller]

Interesting thread Rob... Thought provoking!

The straight arm & flopped wrist press are not pretty to watch sometimes I agree... however they are wins nonetheless... a W is a W ya know?

I dont like em either but it appears they are here to stay... guess we gotta find the best way to beat em! jus my .02

[Hungry Hippo]

I find it comical when people bash others regarding style and find it permissive, but bash someone for roids and KATY BAR THE DAMN DOOR........LMAO

[Mike Gould]

Iam a firm believer in styles makes match ups. If you know you have to pull these guys and you know this is what they do, then its your job to figure out how to beat them.
I magine if many years ago every one decided top rolling was acceptable becuase everyone just wanted to see huge hook wars...wear would we be today. How long did it take guys to be able to defend torollers. Well it may be a little different but just the same we have to adapt to a flop wrist press aswell to a guy who has a sticky spot close to the pin. And i wont call it bone locks because there realy is no such thing in my oppinion. If you have any bones grinding up you cant take an ounce of pressure on them believe me. All those guys are beatable but the reason they have more wins on every one is because they have a great play they can rely on when in trouble. Iwas at Virginia beach worlds in 1996 i believe when Jerry won the worlds and beat out russia with his same move. Every one loved it.
I have seen all those guys lose matches but you have to know how to beat them and if you dont then you should be more impressed with them. When Mike started dropping down and using his arm for leverage Pushkars wrist flopped...That to me shows some one isnt ready for a match especialy if you study your apponent.
LOL this is just my 2 cents.

[Rob Vigeant Jr.]

umm....roids cant be changed

how people pull.....or lack there of can

flop wrist pressing can still b e maneuvered, the arm is still bent and can be opened,.....not the case when you lay back on the elbow pad and it becomes the forearm lever pad.......

pretty to watch has nothing to do with it.........but anyone who doesnt get it yet wont

[Rob Vigeant Jr.]

.....and the toproll is different.its still pulling..different angle, but still using the components that make an actual aw match..ugh,

[Mike Gould]

LOL, Well i do understand totaly what your saying im just saying in my opinion who decides what components make an armwrestle. To me grip up and pull or do what ever it takes to get your opponent pinned. If you can do that with most of the top guys then your a heck of a puller.