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Post by Robert Wimbley on Jul 2, 2012 17:48:46 GMT -5
Mr. Hutchings, Engin Terzi
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Post by John Milne on Jul 2, 2012 22:05:04 GMT -5
What if Crazy George beats Zoloev? Which he will....
I'm sure people will have huge problems calling George the p4p man.
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Jul 3, 2012 6:20:25 GMT -5
What if Crazy George beats Zoloev? Which he will.... I'm sure people will have huge problems calling George the p4p man. NO, unless you change George's name to Mike Todd and MT was 176 lbs, then everyone will deem it just fine...
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Post by Rob Vigeant Jr. on Jul 3, 2012 7:02:51 GMT -5
What if Crazy George beats Zoloev? Which he will.... I'm sure people will have huge problems calling George the p4p man. NO, unless you change George's name to Mike Todd and MT was 176 lbs, then everyone will deem it just fine... That is awesome !!!......and sooo true.
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Post by Florian Kellersmann on Jul 3, 2012 9:41:21 GMT -5
Oleg Zokh lefty?
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Post by Ryan Adams on Jul 3, 2012 23:05:30 GMT -5
What if Crazy George beats Zoloev? Which he will.... I'm sure people will have huge problems calling George the p4p man. Absoulutely, seeing as his arm won't even straighten beyond anywhere close, and he uses hardly any effort (muscle/tendon Strength!) holding people. Funny how he has problems not only finishing people like Cobra, Fisher, or Klemba but also troulbe finishing everyone at the arnolds every year, people not even ranked. Someone like Taynov finished everyone quick, if George has so much strength why can't hey finish quick? Because it's a lock where he sits and waits. This is getting tired, give credit where it's due. Whereas Zoloev, Hutchings, Babayev have worked for the ability to hold mass amounts of weights and are people who deserve such a title. Pretty bad when your holding someone with your wrist bent to hell and no ability to pin, just laying back with your shoulder low as hell and people think you are strong. Then quarter of an hour later your opponents tired enough you can beat them. Whereas someone like Taynov, Corba, and Fisher can slam you. I'm not an idiot I clearly see what's going on here. Anyhow the answer to this thread is clearly Zoloev because of his weight strength ratio. Give Hutchings the same amount of time in this sport training as Zoloev has and we could see a new P4P #1. Now go ahead and come back with name calling etc. And no real facts or reasons as to even give an argument being as there isn't any. On the George subject. Zoloev vs George is an injury for George waiting to happen.
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Post by John Roberts on Jul 4, 2012 8:51:43 GMT -5
Ryan,
How long have you been armwrestling competively?
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Post by kyledarby on Jul 4, 2012 11:51:51 GMT -5
If it's so easy Ryan why don't you give it a shot in an open class? I mean it requires no strength or technique. You make it sound easier than George makes it look. So spoken like a true expert. I dare you to attempt it and see how that works out for you. If you place top 3 I'll personally reimburse you your entry fees and publicly apologize. I don't see that happening though if it was so simple and effortless the rest of us would quit hooking and top rolling and fall in line.
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Post by kyledarby on Jul 4, 2012 12:02:16 GMT -5
FYI Hutchings isn't new to the sport. It's not like the man discovered he was a beast through a mid life crisis. I don't know how many years he has in but it wouldn't surprise me if it matched or exceeds Zoleov.
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Post by Bob Brown on Jul 4, 2012 13:15:01 GMT -5
It really does not matter how long Ryan has been an armwrestler. I actually think a new puller that is not influenced by "Who someone is or how long someone has been armwrestling", has an UN-biased opinion. By the way, he is correct in his analysis of this situation.
Well, except that Kyle is right about Todd pulling for a long time.
As far a PFP. Zoloev would have to be. He was @45 lbs lighter than Todd.
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Post by Tyson Beauchamp on Jul 4, 2012 13:29:23 GMT -5
I agree with Bob and Ryan. Crazy George and Michael Todd have both had injuries which seems to have seized up tendons that do not allow them to straighten their arm. Its like someone getting a rod inserted in their arm so it wont straighten fully. Its sucks to watch. Give me a good hook match or killer toproll any day. I think a rule needs to be made about how low a person can have their shoulder.
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Post by kyledarby on Jul 4, 2012 13:30:33 GMT -5
So answer me this then. Lets give the benefit of the doubt and pretend George isn't strong. How is it a stroke against him for having superior grip strength and a better wrist than his opponents? Please don't tell me grip strength isn't affected by tendon strength. Addittionally wrist strength and hand control are influenced by muscle right? I mean it is a checks and balances system of defeating the arm, wrist, or hand. So why such a problem? After all if money is to be made I doubt anyone pointing fingers bets against George.
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Post by Chuck Barney on Jul 4, 2012 13:43:12 GMT -5
I agree with Bob and Ryan. Crazy George and Michael Todd have both had injuries which seems to have seized up tendons that do not allow them to straighten their arm. Its like someone getting a rod inserted in their arm so it wont straighten fully. Its sucks to watch. Give me a good hook match or killer toproll any day. I think a rule needs to be made about how low a person can have their shoulder. I am with you tyson. I wish there was a rule that would prevent these guys from resting on there tricep while they lay under the table until the other guy gets tired. I am not saying its easy or that i could do it.... it just makes for a boring matchup.
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Post by kyledarby on Jul 4, 2012 13:48:59 GMT -5
^^^ This is more accurate
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Post by John Roberts on Jul 4, 2012 16:37:26 GMT -5
Results speak for themselves ......
People dont ask how..................
They ask how many!
George is the best 176 lber and has proved it over and over again.
I also think that Georges feats of strength would surprise most people.
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