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Post by Sharon Remez on Jul 17, 2006 5:53:56 GMT -5
Hi Engin, Israel does not want to kill civillians and never did.i think you know that. 1200 missiles landed in israel so far and each missile was aimed to kill civillians,althogh we are all soldiers. we even warn civillians by massages droped from planes where they should keep away from. And i dont say we dont friendly up sometimes.we do. Now i am on the way to the Europiens Champ. see how it goes. Engin you are free to feel and say what ever you want...thats grate to talk and comunicate.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 17, 2006 16:23:14 GMT -5
Excellent comment.
Both sides are killing many innocent civilians. Neither can be blameless for this act.
isreal Is attacking homes......that missles are being fired from.
No longer making them "homes" but "military targets"
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Post by Scott Latella on Jul 17, 2006 17:44:05 GMT -5
i really hope that world war three and the end of the world is very soon,then we all will see at whose side GOD will be on the judgement day. Engin. Do you have kids??
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 18, 2006 9:13:29 GMT -5
no but i heard that those Japanese,blacks and Indians had lots of kids.will the end of the world come when there is no kids around?maybe you can show off your fake love to the kids first by starting to protest children killings in Palestina? for those Iraqy and Palestanian kids everyday is the end of the world but i am sure that your kids are more important than those kids!!!!!! heaven is a better place for all the kids than some of them living in hell here on this earth while some of them are ready to be grown to kill more of children. now dont get involve with me!!!!
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 18, 2006 9:21:11 GMT -5
Sharon,
you dont fu.k up sometimes,i say all the time.even at this time it is shown like Palestine started by kidnapping the soldier,it is not true.before that Israel killed 7 civillian human beings from the same family.Israel isolated Palestinians to let them starve because they elected Hamas in democratical elections.and yes they warn, "please leave your home because in 5 minutes we are going to crush your home!!!".
does your "great Israel" dream still contain the eastern part of my country?
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Post by Yuval Bar on Jul 18, 2006 9:41:17 GMT -5
HELO to everyone. i"m from israel. i dont think that most of the world know whats realy going on and if even one person think like engin is very worng.the difrent between israel and the palestine terorist is that israel try to fight against the terorist and the ones that want war and hurt innocent civilians but the terorist hide thamselfs with innocent civilians they are hiding behind civilians thats why there are innocent civilians kiled its the terorist that cause that. israel will never hurt innocent civilians israel is try to avoid that in every possible way.most of the palestines want peace with israel but the terorist groups will never let it happend they dont want peace and they try to kill innocent civilians drop missiles in civilians area put bombs in bus full of civilians, in coffee shops, resturants, shopping center where there is a big crowd.u cant walk in israel and feel safe.when i sit with my family in resturat or coffee shop or whatever i dont feel safe i"m afraid for them i try to stay home as much as possible.and the one Israeli "soldier" is not the cause for all that happen its all the above the one soldier is the last straw israel have to do somthing a long time a go.there is no Israeli person in israel that want war and to kill innocent civilians every one want peace.but it will not append with the terorist groups.israel have to fight them and there will be innocent civilians on the way but it will never be on purpose from the side of israel.
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 18, 2006 10:02:48 GMT -5
yuval,
to you i am wrong and to me you are wrong.i am not from palestina but you are from israel.
i am from a country that saved children of Israel when they were being killed and threatened to be assimilated when they had to leave Spain 500 years ago.my country was the only country who opened the doors widely and with an humanist way.
it is all about Israel trying to fulfill it's "great Israel" dream.every mention city that is in the Old Testament.and it also contains eastern part of my country.
also Iran is a threat for Israel because they are afraid Iran may develope nuclear weapons as Israel has hundreds of them!!! so all these was a plan of Israel,they killed 7 civilliand from same family,they knew that Palestanians would do something for revenge and this was gonna give a created reason to Israel to start attacking on firstly Lebanon and then to Syria and Iran to control the middle east.
Israel has been buying lands in the northern Iraq from the Kurds to control the southern part of Turkey,which is right below the Turkish land which is part of the "great Israel" dream.so all these are the plans that are made long time ago but just needed a created reason to start fulfilling.because Jews believe that they are above the rest of the humanity as they are the esspecially choisen ones of GOD.
that is why the desire of being the richest,it is to control the medias,then public and then the governments of the countries..all this to fulfill one great dream.
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 18, 2006 10:29:55 GMT -5
, in coffee shops, resturants, shopping center Palestina has-will never have those kind of places because the only thing that they have is their daily taken lives by Israel.
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Post by Yuval Bar on Jul 18, 2006 10:38:35 GMT -5
ENGIN i dont know what u are talking about or from where u got all the thing that u worte. israel plan? ?,"great Israel" dream??? israel dream is to have peace and to live peacfuly like most of the world and ENGIN I DONT THINK THAT I"M
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 18, 2006 10:44:30 GMT -5
most of the palestines want peace with israel . they just dont want their kids to be killed by Israel all the time.not that they like Israel,they all hate Israel. just because they dont have a strong army they are called terrorist.but Israel's military forces called as army because the big brother gave them enough technological weapon to be able to erase the middle east from the map. nice clothes,most powerful weapons to kill by greater numbers make them well respected,while being weaker and fighting for their nation in bad conditions make Palestanians terrorists.but on the judgement day GOD will not care about the richness or power of the mankind because all will belong to HIM on that day.so sides will not be able to wash the JUDGE's brain with power and wrong informations by the "SOLD media".
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 18, 2006 10:47:11 GMT -5
ok Yuval,
not really but i say ok because i can not call you a liar because i can not read the hearts and minds.
the WHOLE WORLD KNOWS THE ZIONIST DREAM ABOUT GREAT ISRAEL but it is possible that you do not know about it.
so i apoligise you.
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 18, 2006 11:00:48 GMT -5
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 18, 2006 11:02:07 GMT -5
"When you read the history of Israel from objective sources, you discover that it is an outlaw state, created by the powers that be by stealing the land from its original inhabitants, and systematically exterminating them ever since." —John Kaminski
"We killed them out of a certain naive hubris. Believing with absolute certitude that now, with the White House, the Senate, and much of the American media in our hands, the lives of others do not count as much as our own..." —Ari Shavat. Reproduced in the New York Times, May 27th, 1999
"One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." —Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994
"I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it." —Ariel Sharon to Shimon Peres, October 3rd, 2001, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio.
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 18, 2006 11:30:24 GMT -5
Uri Zvi Greenberg sits on the Temple Mount with liberating Israeli soldiers
One Truth and Not Two by Uri Zvi Greenberg (interpreted from Hebrew by Laurence Cramer) Your Rabbis taught: A land is bought with money You buy the land and work it with a hoe. And I say: A land is not bought with money And with a hoe you also dig and bury the dead. And I say: A land is conquered with blood. And only when conquered with blood is hallowed to the people With the holiness of the blood. And only one who follows after the cannon in the field, Thus wins the right to follow after his good plow On this, the field that was conquered. And only such a field gives nourishing and healthy bread And the house which arises on its hill is truly a fortress and a temple, Because in this field there is honorable blood. Your Rabbis taught: The messiah will come in future generations: And Judea will arise without fire and without blood. It will arise with every tree, with every additional house. And I say: If your generation will be slow And will not grasp in its hands and forcibly mold its future And in fire will not come with the Shield of David And in blood will not come with its horses saddled - The Messiah will not come even in a far off generation. Judea will not arise. And you will be living slaves to every foreign ruler. Your houses will be straw for the sparks of every wicked one. And your trees will be cut down with their ripe fruit. And a man will react the same as a babe To the sword of the enemy - And only your ramblings will remain - yours... And your statue, an eternal curse. Your Rabbis taught: There is one truth for the nations: Blood for blood - but it is not a truth for Jews. And I say: There is one truth and not two. As there is one sun and as there are not two Jerusalems. It was written in the Law of Conquest of Moses and Joshua Until the last of my kings and my traitors have consumed. And there will be a day when from the river of Egypt until the Euphrates And from the sea until the mountain passes of Moav my boys will go up And they will call my enemies and my haters to the last battle. And the blood will decide:
Who is the only ruler here.
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Post by Yuval Bar on Jul 18, 2006 11:33:35 GMT -5
ENGIN i dont know what u are talking about or from where u got all the things that u wrote. israel plan? ?,"great Israel" dream??? israel dream is to have peace and to live peacfuly like most of the world and ENGIN I DONT THINK THAT I"M right and u wrong I KNOW SO, u are not even close to be right. i dont say that israel is good and the palestins are bad but in palestin there are terorist groups "hamas" "hisbala" "hamal" and more that dont want peace they dont care for anything or any one, they are animals they kill innocents and hide in palestines crowd.the palestinians dont need them they suffer beacuse of them. For the jewish people there is only one country- "israel", it is a small country sourounded by enemies. We only want to leave in peace with everyone, we do not like war, But it is impossible to make peace with them, because the palestines educate their younger children to hate us and they promise them to be in heaven with 21 virgins if they will be a terorist, god knows we tried many times to make peace with them, But it can't work. You agree with me that any nation has the right to defend itself. But every time we defend ourselves, some country has something to say about it. they don't leave here, and they do not know what is going on in israel, so the can't interfere in the complicated situation around here.
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