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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 19, 2006 22:58:57 GMT -5
Psalms 122
1. I Was glad when they said unto me, Let us go into the house of the Lord. 2. Our feet shall stand within thy gates, O Jerusalem. 3. Jerusalem is builded as a city that is compact together: 4. Whither the tribes go up, the tribes of the Lord, unto the testimony of Israel, to give thanks unto the name of the Lord. 5. For there are set thrones of judgment, the thrones of the house of David. 6. Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee. 7. Peace be within thy walls, and prosperity within thy palaces. 8. For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee. 9. Because of the house of the Lord our God I will seek thy good.
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 20, 2006 3:24:27 GMT -5
Justin, i am not planning to visit USA.i am also very happy in where i am and armwrestling is not the most important thing for me in the life.very important but not the most important thing. you are 100% right,those powers are very strong in my country too.i will not be suprised if a deadly "ACCIDENT" happens to me (how can i be suprised when i am dead ). you do not offend me,everything you say is true,very true.i have informed some of my friends about the things that i wrote here,so they can let some of none sold media to know about why something happenned to me if it happens. i did not write anything that i dont believe in,i did not write any swearing or cursing.i wrote the facts because it just bothers me to see that some oppress the weak ones to reach their illegal dreams and still blame the people who are oppressed.it is a plain hypocrisy. Israel should stop it's oppression and go back to it's borders without harasting those people to create new reasons to the way of it's illegal dreams. i respect Judaism,but not Zionism. Justin, the powers that you talk about,all they will know about me is what they read here.i am not a hypocrite,i am not a politician neither a member of any group.i represant only my own self.if i had secret thoughts then i would hide my thoughts.i am an armwrestler,but also a human being.it bothers me to see that armwrestlers from all over the world sees this part of the region as bad people,and i just wanted to express my thoughts and feelings. i will never get involved with anything as long as my country is out of things.but it is the same for you too.i am an armwrestler and all i want is compliting my personal dream in armwrestling. anyways,i thank you for warning me.
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 20, 2006 3:35:35 GMT -5
Scott, get involve with anyone you want but not with me especially in a way to make look bad like i am looking forward for kids to die.i am the one who is against the civilian deaths so you should have got involved with Ryan who thinks that civilian killings by soldiers are no different than soldiers killing each other. everyone loves their kids but a little empathy would make you realize that over here some kids are getting killed by being considered insects.and the love of their parents for them is not any less than the love that you feel for your daughter. once again maybe you should tell how horrible to kill children by starting from the killers instead of me. #1 Again. I will get involved when I want. #2 NOT everyone loves their kids. If they did ,there would be no need for foster parents, and there wouldn't be crack babies,baby murders, suicide, incest, abuse, runaways, rape and there wouldn't be armies (mine, yours or theirs) of ANY kind fighting over Land, God, Oil, Slaves ect. #3 I didn't start with you. I asked if you had kids. I didn't think you did, but I didn't want to comment without knowing the facts. i was gonna ignore you to help you understand that i dont wanna get involved with you,but i see that you did not have a negative purpose as to make me look bad. most of those that you wrote mostly happens in the countries that have lost values.in the countries that have values those things happen very seldomly.i know they love their kids no less than you love your kid.you have freedom after an independance war,right? wars are bad,but sometimes you may need to defend yourself for your freedom.
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Post by Justin Kaufman on Jul 20, 2006 18:54:21 GMT -5
Engin,
Thank you for your response, I don't know who is right in any of the many fights/wars in this world. I do know one thing for sure though, I support our troops because they do their jobs what ever that might be (maybe not the cause they were sent for). I also will never listen to our media, since they can influence the majority as does the other media's across the world. I'l make my own judgements and do research to find my opinion. As a member of the global armwrestling family I say "Peace be with you" as well as all others.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 20, 2006 22:34:04 GMT -5
engin, Nothing is going to happen to you because of anything you say here. We Americans view your right to your religion and your freedom of speech. Whether you are american or not. We (americans) believe God Gave us these freedoms and man cannot take them away. You are free to voice your opinoins without fear of repercussion.......if anything does happen to you it wont be a result of this board im sure. You may not like me but i respect your stand. And i would understand if you disagree with my viewpoints, I disagree with yours, and its ok.... I dont hate you, i dont want to fight you, i dont want to strap a bomb to my chest in retaliation
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Post by Brian Bylbie on Jul 20, 2006 22:55:33 GMT -5
Ryan, I think that was the best post you have ever made! I have my own opinion about this topic but I choose to keep it to my self.
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 21, 2006 4:52:22 GMT -5
Ryan,
my post was not related with you.you have no idea about what i am talking.it has no relations with your country and i know what i am talking about.there are some powers who are also very strong in my country too.
i know that you dont have a bad purpose by saying these but you really do not know certain things.
about hating eachother,i do not hate you either.i do not hate even the person who caused me so much problems in february.but i hate people who kills weak people without mercy.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 21, 2006 5:03:26 GMT -5
I pray for your safety and hope all is well with you.
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 21, 2006 5:05:31 GMT -5
Justin,
peace be upon all mankind.i wish it can be possible and we would not worry about people killing eachother.
i have been in USA many times,everytime i watched news i was getting so mad.because when people from Israel died it was the flash news all day long,and when people from Palestian (who always dies at least with ten or more times of numbers than Israeli) died then there was a quick mention sometimes even only with written bottom of the screen.
do you know why those people shot Israel warship?because only a few day ago two little Palestanian girls were killed by the fire of this warship when they were playing at the beach.
anyways,you all just know that they are human beings as much as yourselves no matter what you hear from zionist media.
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 21, 2006 5:06:06 GMT -5
thanks Ryan,but the truth is that i do not care much about my safety as long as it will be known why happenned.
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 21, 2006 5:29:26 GMT -5
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 21, 2006 11:49:12 GMT -5
the result of Israeli terrorist attacks is over 400 civillian deaths by today,they are ready to enter and occupy Lebanon.Lebanese people are ready to fight back to Israeli even they are weak against Israel who is supplied by USA with over 300 nuclear weapons,and tens of thousands of other strong weapons (2.4 billion dollars worth yearly).
my country has been a bridge for the foreigners who are escaping from Lebanon to their home countries mostly in Europe,Canada and soon Americans will come too,to use Mersin seaport,that is a port in south Turkey.
let us see how long it will take Israel to kill all the Palestanians and Lebanese people!!!
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 21, 2006 12:01:05 GMT -5
, i dont want to strap a bomb to my chest in retaliation Ryan, you dont need to strap a bomb on your chest,you can just click the button.straping bomb on chest is the only chance of people who have lost their family members by attacks of governmental terrorism. but i think clicking the button looks nicer than straping the bombs on chest,so one is called terrorist while the other is called army.
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Post by Justin Kaufman on Jul 21, 2006 19:27:37 GMT -5
you all know what's really crazy, when all this started with Isreal and Lebanon. Guess what the top story was in the U.S. news? A story about freakin Brad Pitt and his ideas on how to rebuild New Orleans. Go figure that one.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 21, 2006 19:28:57 GMT -5
Isreal does not want to kill lebonese.
The do not want a war with lebanon.
They are requesting the presence of the Lebanese military to police the area to get rid of the hellabazoo. That is a terrorist orginization.
The only reason Isreal may go into lebanon is to push the terrorists back so there missles cannot reach their cities.
Israel must do what it has to do to protect its people.
Lebanon obviously doesnt wat to do what it takes to protect its own people.....if they did they would have a stronger force agaisnt the hellabazoo........but they refuse to force them out......after 6 yrs since they said they would......this is when israel pulled out....under the conditions that the hellabazoo would be removed and disarmed......they have not been......then they attacked israel....and isael is tired of playing games with children.
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