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Post by enginterzi on Jul 18, 2006 12:05:31 GMT -5
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Post by Scott Latella on Jul 18, 2006 16:10:39 GMT -5
no but i heard that those Japanese,blacks and Indians had lots of kids.will the end of the world come when there is no kids around?maybe you can show off your fake love to the kids first by starting to protest children killings in Palestina? for those Iraqy and Palestanian kids everyday is the end of the world but i am sure that your kids are more important than those kids!!!!!! heaven is a better place for all the kids than some of them living in hell here on this earth while some of them are ready to be grown to kill more of children. now dont get involve with me!!!! First off. I asked if YOU had kids. I now understand why you said what you said. Second. I wasn't going to show ANY fake love because I wasn't going to protest anyone. I care about what goes on in this world because I LOVE MY GIRL (and foster girl) and nothing (money,friends,work,pride or even the wife) comes close. YES heaven would be a far greater place for any of us , but to have a WW3 and have our kids scared and killed is horrible for ANY parents. And last of all I WILL get involved when I want. I WILL always stand up, stick up for, help and fight for kids.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 18, 2006 20:10:20 GMT -5
I am aware of what "dream" you speak of engin.
We have different opinoins on this matter obviously tho.
Some believe the messiah will not come untill isreal obtains alll its originall land promised to them by God.
But if they are buying the land, isnt that better than war?
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 19, 2006 4:06:09 GMT -5
Scott,
get involve with anyone you want but not with me esspecially in a way to make look bad like i am looking forward for kids to die.i am the one who is against the civillian deaths so you should have got involved with Ryan who thinks that civillian killings by soldiers are no different than soldiers killing eachother.
everyone loves their kids but a little empathy would make you realise that over here some kids are getting killed by being considered insects.and the love of their parents for them is not any less than the love that you feel for your daughter.
once again maybe you should tell how horrible to kill children by starting from the killers instead of me.
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 19, 2006 4:57:12 GMT -5
Ryan,
it always started with buying the lands,then became how it is now.the people who wants to fulfill this dream is ready to do ANYTHING necessary for this.you are seing the part of the picture,just walk a few steps back to see the rest of the picture.this dream must be fulfilled in ANYWAY that it takes.they will not be able to buy all the lands of the other countries.they firstly will establish their presence in that land,and then becoming the most powerful in economical way and start to control media+public=the governments.some of this dream are planned to be fulfill by blood (as it is in mideast) and some of this dream are fulfilled by money (as it is in USA).they have enough power,and they are patient for they have been waiting for this day for thousands of years.now they have enough power to fulfill this dream,only thing that they need is creating a reason to make their actions look legal on the eyes of the World.some of the eyes are always ready to see everything that Israel does as legal because they have to.
after all those wars no country should have desire for other's lands.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 19, 2006 5:55:50 GMT -5
.i am the one who is against the civillian deaths so you should have got involved with Ryan who thinks that civillian killings by soldiers are no different than soldiers killing eachother. I didnt say killing a civilian is the same as killing a soldier. I said killing a soldier is the same as killing a civilian.
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 19, 2006 6:09:13 GMT -5
soldiers are armed adult people and they are there to fight, children are not there to fight.
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 19, 2006 6:13:04 GMT -5
so Ryan,
the wars always happened,it does not have to start by you.sometimes you may be attacked and protect yourself by finding yourself in a war.so it is necessary that you shoot soldiers and they shoot you.but while these things happenning if soldiers start killing babies,women,pregnants,old people,disableds and other civillians, are these considered by you as same with the soldiers shooting at eachother?
wars are bad,but even the wars should have some rules.
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Post by Bill Maenza on Jul 19, 2006 7:38:40 GMT -5
wars are bad,but even the wars should have some rules. Very true!
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 19, 2006 7:39:15 GMT -5
I am aware of what "dream" you speak of engin. We have different opinoins on this matter obviously tho. Some believe the messiah will not come untill isreal obtains alll its originall land promised to them by God. But if they are buying the land, isnt that better than war? are these your opinions about it? Sizer defines Christian Zionism by seven tenets: 1. A literalist hermeneutic 2. The Jews remain God’s chosen people 3. The Jews have a divine right to the land of the Middle East 4. Jerusalem is their exclusive capital 5. The Jewish temple must be rebuilt 6. The Arabs are the enemies of God’s people 7. The world will end soon in the great battle of Armageddon but Christians who support Israel will escape.
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Post by Scott Latella on Jul 19, 2006 15:04:27 GMT -5
Scott, get involve with anyone you want but not with me especially in a way to make look bad like i am looking forward for kids to die.i am the one who is against the civilian deaths so you should have got involved with Ryan who thinks that civilian killings by soldiers are no different than soldiers killing each other. everyone loves their kids but a little empathy would make you realize that over here some kids are getting killed by being considered insects.and the love of their parents for them is not any less than the love that you feel for your daughter. once again maybe you should tell how horrible to kill children by starting from the killers instead of me. #1 Again. I will get involved when I want. #2 NOT everyone loves their kids. If they did ,there would be no need for foster parents, and there wouldn't be crack babies,baby murders, suicide, incest, abuse, runaways, rape and there wouldn't be armies (mine, yours or theirs) of ANY kind fighting over Land, God, Oil, Slaves ect. #3 I didn't start with you. I asked if you had kids. I didn't think you did, but I didn't want to comment without knowing the facts.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 19, 2006 20:01:44 GMT -5
are these your opinions about it? Sizer defines Christian Zionism by seven tenets: 1. A literalist hermeneutic 2. The Jews remain God’s chosen people 3. The Jews have a divine right to the land of the Middle East 4. Jerusalem is their exclusive capital 5. The Jewish temple must be rebuilt 6. The Arabs are the enemies of God’s people 7. The world will end soon in the great battle of Armageddon but Christians who support Israel will escape. 1. I guess this means i believe in the word of God to the t....then yes. 2. Paul said a true jew is one who is not circumsised by the flesh but by the heart..........so, yes and no 3. Not the "middle east" but to isreal....it all belongs to God anyway....right? 4. Yes 5. Not that it "must" be but it "will" 6. The arabs, and anyone else who is isreals enemy only if they chose to be. 7. Not christians who support isreal.......But christians who are wash by the blood of Christ.....and yes all christians should support isreal.
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Post by Justin Kaufman on Jul 19, 2006 20:43:51 GMT -5
Engin,
I may be brain washed I guess, but some of the things you are saying are just plain scarry. I guess I am just comfortable here in the heart of the U.S.. I hope this doesn't make you angry, but the powers that be here, monitor alot of things (e-mail, phone calls, visited web sites, etc..) and in my opinion the things I have read that you are saying could possibly stop you from ever coming back to the States. Again this post is not meant to offend, it's just my opinion.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 19, 2006 22:50:45 GMT -5
We Are Free!
We Are Independent!
Praise God!!
We are A Blessed Nation Because We Pray For Israel!!!
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 19, 2006 22:52:32 GMT -5
Numbers 6
22. And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, 23. Speak unto Aaron and unto his sons, saying, On this wise ye shall bless the children of Israel, saying unto them, 24. The Lord bless thee, and keep thee: 25. The Lord make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee: 26. The Lord lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace. 27. And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel, and I will bless them.
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