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Post by enginterzi on Jul 22, 2006 3:54:44 GMT -5
the two soldiers that were arrested was in Lebanese borders.it was very natural them to be arrested when they were armed and walking in another country.how would your security react if two soldiers from an enemy country enters your land while they are armed?buy coffe for them?so it was a plan of Israel to start all these.as always it was not a problem to sacrifice two soldiers as they sacrificed thousands of Americans to start all these wars. they are talking about two arrested soldiers,Israel prisons 10.000 of mostly civillians with women and children.Palestina has no electric city,Israel has stopped the international drug and food aid to Palestina.yes they want them to be either be slaves or died. listen to about it,just show 1% of patience that you show to sold zionist media.by the jews host and hostess; radio4houston.org/takingaim/takingaim021001.mp3 www.takingaim.info/
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 22, 2006 8:18:23 GMT -5
Isreal does not want to kill lebonese. they accidently killed 400 of them.
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 22, 2006 8:20:06 GMT -5
The only reason Isreal may go into lebanon is to push the terrorists back so there missles cannot reach their cities. but their over 300 nuclear weapons can reach to any capitol of the Europe any time they wish.there is no other country in the world that kills more civillians than Israel does.Israel is the country that wants to create the greater Israel empire by occupying the other nations.
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 22, 2006 8:32:51 GMT -5
Israel must do what it has to do to protect its people. i live right above the region,and have been following what has been happenning for over 20 years.in my country more Jews population than Arab population and we live in peace. what has been happenning in mideast has nothing to do with protecting people.it is all about serving to reach a sick goal by doing no matter what it takes to do. time to time they create stupid reasons to occupy the nations slowly by killing the innocent lives and repeating "we defend our selves,we defend ourselves" on the sold Zionist media in the most powerful country in the world. an honest president like JFK must not be elected again because a second assasination would be too risqy.so make sure that Americans will hear and know what "they" want them to know about these kind of things.so no American would oppose after yearly 10.000.000.000 dollars of money transfer (including over 2.000.000.000 dollars worth of weapons) from their taxes to the Israel to be bullets to the heads of civillians. so keep watching everything that sold media tells you,one day you will know the truth.
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Jul 22, 2006 10:20:18 GMT -5
" An honest President like JFK"?
Only comment on this VERY touchy topic is "some" of the things that Engin is telling us that is reported in his part of the World is quite different than what is reported by our "Drive by" Liberal, PRO PALESTINIAN , media....
Yes Engin, Most Liberal Media ( which is just about all media, contrary to your remarks on WHO controls the media, ESPECIALLY here in this CRAPPY STATE of N.Y.) ARE NOT Pro Isreal. Which is pretty funny since the Majority of the Jewish "FAITH" are liberals and support Liberal Politicians, who BTW are PRO Palistinian.
Engin: Kara, my wife is part Turkish, who happens to be of the Jewish faith.
Engin: Good luck where you are!
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 22, 2006 12:59:11 GMT -5
Actually from what ive heard JFK is veiwed as good president. But i dont really know to be honest.
My favorite presidents of all time.....abraham lincoln.......ronald reagan
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 22, 2006 13:01:04 GMT -5
Hey christian ....do you listen to rush and sean hannity alot?
I love those guys....they are stinkin awesome
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 22, 2006 13:02:19 GMT -5
Engin, i havent heard of turkey being a problem in any of this. In fact for turkey to take in the evacuees is a noble thing for your country to do .
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Post by Elaine Blik on Jul 22, 2006 16:14:37 GMT -5
" An honest President like JFK"? Only comment on this VERY touchy topic is "some" of the things that Engin is telling us that is reported in his part of the World is quite different than what is reported by our "Drive by" Liberal, PRO PALESTINIAN , media.... Yes Engin, Most Liberal Media ( which is just about all media, contrary to your remarks on WHO controls the media, ESPECIALLY here in this CRAPPY STATE of N.Y.) ARE NOT Pro Isreal. Which is pretty funny since the Majority of the Jewish "FAITH" are liberals and support Liberal Politicians, who BTW are PRO Palistinian. I have to agree with you Christian... we have to go to other sources in order to get the "real" truth in the news every day. I don't think we would have half the hatred and anger among the US if it weren't for what the media crams down our throats every day. I don't believe it's necessary for the media to be embedded with our military either. Besides being a "hazard" while being side by side with our soldiers, when one of them is injured or killed, then "it's the President's fault"... of course! (sarcasm) Not to mention, they bring a left slant to the coverage and don't actually show any GOOD thing that may have happened on that particular day in the war. I am sure whatever is reported in Europe and the Mid-East is quite different than what we are hearing from our news and people who listen or read the news as it is reported to them, have a tendency to believe it for what it says if they do not access other news services. I am not by any means, Pro-war as I was raised in a Mennonite family (who by faith oppose war). However, I do believe that the US has a right to defend our country, just as Israel has the right to defend herself and are doing just that. Obviously this conflict and anything that Israel is involved with goes back to the birthright between Jacob and Esau... Anyone who has read the book of Revelation can now watch it play out. I believe this to be true, just as Engin believes what he believes to be true. We all have been brought up as a child to believe certain things and some hold on to those beliefs tighter than others. That being said, any arguement on this subject is pointless... Healthy discussion? yes... but not when it turns to angry words. My 2 cents...
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 22, 2006 18:17:31 GMT -5
i agree but "your butt is your face" is a bit more humerous than hurtful...lol
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 23, 2006 6:56:45 GMT -5
However, I do believe that the US has a right to defend our country, just as Israel has the right to defend herself and are doing just that. .. a few months ago Palestina had a democratical elections,one of the political party that was in election was Hamas.both Israel and USA did let Hamas to be part of this election. then people of Palestina has choosed Hamas to be their represantative.then both Israel and USA did not like the results of the "DEMOCRATICAL" elections,because the understanding of democracy for them is "WHATEVER THEY WANT". so both Israel and USA cut the international aid to Palestanian civillians to punish them for choosing Hamas (that was let by USA and Israel to be part of the elections)in the "DEMOCRATICAL" elections. Palestanian people (at least i consider them as people) has been without food,drugs and electric city for months because of the desicion of them was not pleasent for Israel.they have no contact with the world now. so if they get enough punishment then next time they would not elect Hamas,and they would put pressure on Hamas to resign their position even though they were elected with a "DEMOCRATICAL" election. Israel protecting itself? civillians,including two little girls are playing at the beach.then without any reason they got shot and killed by Israeli military.this brought an anger in their nation (should not get angry because their lives are not that important since one million of them are equal one zionist finger nail). then Israeli military crossed "ANOTHER COUNTRY" with their weapons,two of them were arrested. then Israel declared,"if you dont free our soldiers we are gonna beat the sh.t ....!!! then the Lebanese declared," yes but you have been prisoning our over 10.000 mostly civillians with women and children". then Israel started to bomb and killed 400 civillians in a short time with their air planes crosses the borders of another country. the Lebanese started to send their missiles back to Israel (which they should not,(because they are created only to be killed). now Israel is ready to occupy Lebanon by the reason that they can keep their country out of range of Lebanese bombs.while they are capable of sending their over 300 NUCLEAR WEAPONS even to the European capitols. so please let us see the truth,which is zionists are killing who ever they want to kill just to expand it's borders to fulfill it's greater Israel dream.and they use USA by having political control on them. peace can happen only when the races do not see themselves higher than other races.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 23, 2006 9:11:25 GMT -5
From what i hear israel is not planning on "occupying' there just going in to cleanit up and coming out.
Surely there is more to the story that neither of us know.
But the bottom line is this...for me anyway.
Israel will retain its original borders. When where how...i do not know.
But when everything hits the fan and its all out war......everyone has got to take sides. And i will always support Israel. Just like you will always support theother arabic nations because you feel Israel is evil.
Israel doesnt control USA.....we voluntarily support Israel.
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 23, 2006 9:40:03 GMT -5
i do not support Arabs,as a nation i do not generally like them esspecially person like Saddam Hussein,who also killed so many civillians !!!
Israel controls USA as Ariel Sharon clearly says.
we love Jews people as we opened our doors to them whenever they needed to escape from oppression as now Israel is applying on Palestanians and Lebanese.
ps.i did not call Todd "butt face" before he called my religion "my butt". so at least about this matter i expect people to be "honest".
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 23, 2006 18:03:02 GMT -5
He did not call your religion his butt.
But i want to say one thing engin. about Turkey.
Noone here has ever said anything against the nation of Turkey. there may be some hard feelings against islam, but not turkey as a nation.
I dont know about the rest of america but i respect turkey and think it to be noble of them to assist in the evacuations. And all the other good they do.
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 23, 2006 18:07:48 GMT -5
the acts of Turks are the results of true Islam.
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