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Post by guy on Feb 11, 2005 14:36:25 GMT -5
So you named a few exceptions to the rule.
the rest of the pack should have to pull you.
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Post by Travis Bagent on Feb 11, 2005 20:00:57 GMT -5
The rest are amateurs, they need to work harder!!!!!!!
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Post by guy on Feb 11, 2005 20:27:37 GMT -5
wrong
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Post by Michael Griffin on Feb 11, 2005 22:40:45 GMT -5
Hey Travis, I'll admit it, I'm an AMATEUR! But, you better believe I'm training harder everyday bro!! I do know 1 thing for sure...YOU KNOW MY NAME!!
MICHAEL "ANIMAL" GRIFFIN
Take care T. Bagent ;D
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Post by Christopher Myers on Feb 12, 2005 2:55:08 GMT -5
Guy , you will never convince him anymore than he will convince you  Christopher Myers |
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Post by guy on Feb 12, 2005 7:18:05 GMT -5
Chris, funny I came to the same conclusion  |
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Post by Frank Bean on Feb 12, 2005 9:19:40 GMT -5
Guy, check the top 10 armwrestlers in NORTH AMERICA... 5 of the top heavyweights in the world weigh just 220.. Brzenk, Bath, Barbosa, Larrett, Sylvain Perron..... These guy's are heavyweights and not crying.. Hell if you wiegh 200, you should pull 198lb class.... Amateur contest should keep 8 or 10 classes, but pro should be condensed into 3 classes....... This sport needs a "major league" for the top guy's to be marketed and glorified...... And so the lower athlete's have a goal to reach...... Example - pop warner, high school, and college football are successful because of the dream of the NFL............ Travis, how do you come up with your top 10 armwrestlers in North America? You can't use supposed weight classes that they might compete in if they made the weight, you have to use actual documented results. Doing so, your top 10 armwrestlers in North America don't all fall in the 3 weight classes you provide (165, 198, +) Based on your theory, the 5 top heavyweights in the world that you've listed should all drop from the heavyweight division to the 198 division. How many major top caliber competition wise world events have those 5 that you've listed pulled in to establish they are all top 5 in the "world". No disrespect meant to any of the 5 listed. Pop Warner, High School, and College Football are successful because of the dream of the NFL? How do you figure that? College football started in 1869. Professional football didn't start until 1895 under the APFA and the NFL didn't start until 1922. I believe the "amateurs" were glorified before the "major league" I'd be curious to see just how much you'd be supporting your own theory of 3 classes and having those competitors be in a "major league" to be "glorified" if you still weighed 198 pounds. At 198 only 5 years ago you weren't winning so you fell by your own terms into the "lower athlete" division. 100 pounds in 5 years may have put you in the "major league" category, but how many people are willing to gain that much size and weight just to be a "major" leaguer? |
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Post by Jeremy Hurst on Feb 12, 2005 10:03:48 GMT -5
All is I know is I would be plenty happy pulling in the 165 pound class all the time.
Jeremy Hurst
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Post by Mike West on Feb 12, 2005 10:15:31 GMT -5
I for one have always believed that to be competitive at the national or world level, you need to be as lean as possible, just want to make sure that when your cutting the weight to get lean you don't start burning off muscle too, I've been there a couple times, and don't wanna do that again.
Just my 2 cents worth ;D
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Post by Frank Bean on Feb 12, 2005 10:30:58 GMT -5
All is I know is I would be plenty happy pulling in the 165 pound class all the time. Jeremy Hurst Would you Jeremy? I could think of quite a few reasons to be plenty happy to avoid the 165 pound class, i.e. Allen Fisher, Andrew Rhodes, Chad Silvers, Craig Tullier, Bryan Thomas, Rick Soliwada - and that's just a few!! |
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Post by Travis Bagent on Feb 12, 2005 12:00:48 GMT -5
I go to www.pulling.com, that is how I get my rankings.... Those heavywieght rankings on Pullingjohn are very accurate give take the order..... Out of the top 10 armwrestlers in N.A. 5 of them are only 220lbs, "FACT"... Everyone listed in those classes can pull those classes.......... College football like the AAA was started first, however like the NFL has increased the exposure and the talent level of it's minor league, the NAL will do the same for the AAA..... Like Brzenk and Cobra said, who better at running amateur events for hot dogs and popcorn then the AAA.... The BEST!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Feb 12, 2005 12:32:48 GMT -5
So Jeremy should run from the 165s because of Fisher,Cobra, Silvers, Tullier,Thomas, etc? Then how do you ever get better, if you don't pull the best? NEVER RUN JEREMY! TRAVIS BE NICE |
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Post by Jeremy Hurst on Feb 12, 2005 13:19:30 GMT -5
I would not run from any of the people that Frank named. I would greet the challenges as they come that is the only way to improve.
For the record I am very cofortable pulling at that weight.
Jeremy Hurst
P.S. thanks for your input Christian
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Post by Jeremy Hurst on Feb 12, 2005 13:26:07 GMT -5
Also I personally do not know why Chad Silvers would diet down to 165 rather then jump up into the 198's.
Being as big as he is I feel that would be very tough to get to 165 considering he would have to lose quite a bit of muscle. My opinion
I would not back down from a challenge just because you assume that you will get beat, everyone has their off days. Then maybe just maybe I would have a chance to shine, OK Frank
Jeremy Hurst
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Post by Frank Bean on Feb 12, 2005 13:42:23 GMT -5
Jeremy, I wasn't insinuating you should run from any of the people I named. You said you would be happy to pull the 165 pound class and I said I could think of reasons why I wouldn't be happy to pull the 165 pound class.
If you would be happy to pull that class then you have the confidence it takes to pull with those guys. Confidence goes a long way! Don't look at it that someone else might have an off day, that takes away from your own accomplishment.
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