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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Feb 26, 2005 13:40:01 GMT -5
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Post by Ryan Espey on Feb 26, 2005 18:33:09 GMT -5
awwww... did I offend you little fella ? Come on then Travis... tell me how much trouble I am in. You think you are the Muhammad Ali of armwrestling... then call me Larry Holmes.
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Post by Travis Bagent on Feb 26, 2005 22:53:41 GMT -5
Only people that are at my level can offend me!!!!!!!!!! If you keep working one day I'll let you carry my bags to and from the airport!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!lol!!!!!!!!!! I'll see you on the 9th, please don't get injured or sick between now and then....
The BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Ryan Espey on Feb 27, 2005 2:36:27 GMT -5
Sorry... I can't reduce myself to the level that would offend you then. Perhaps I will ask some small children to help me out.
I can't carry your bags to and from the airport yet? You must have your ego in one of them.
I could get run over by a freight train on April 8 and I would still show up for this match. Don't worry about that little fella.
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Post by Olin Lucas on Feb 27, 2005 4:06:18 GMT -5
Wow
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Post by Paul Maiden on Feb 27, 2005 8:38:12 GMT -5
Hey Chris 1st there is alot of top russian althetes that get paid a great deal of money ie soccer players (esp when they play abroad). 2nd these are not the only people who take steriods look around my friend how many usa pullers have take the posion neddle? 3rd the medal may be a peice of plastic to you,but i certainly know i almost do anything for it. 4th have you ever just thought these people are maybe just as good as everyone one else?ok a majority may take the gear but is it not just possible that they just have naturally talented pullers to?we all have fantastic pullers that stand out and iam sure that there just might be 1 in russia who doesnt need the neddle. TAKE CARE
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Post by enginterzi on Feb 27, 2005 10:23:51 GMT -5
The best in each class are not all RUSSIAN, but lack of participation by the rest of the world is the reason they win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! your dream team generally lost to russians.they didnt lose without participating.is it hard to understand or hard to say the truth? i wrote that Cobra has always beat russians but i just realised that he only twice competed against the russians at their prime(after 1993),in india worlds(1997)he lost to both eldarov and zoloev mairbek,and in 1999 russia worlds he crashed alex mundishvili and shamil karajaev. Ron,did your bicep get injured by walking in the hotel lobby or when you were armwrestling against a russian?
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Post by enginterzi on Feb 27, 2005 10:31:55 GMT -5
Ryan,Muhammed Ali was the greatest boxer.talking too much sh.. wasnt the thing that made him greatest
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Post by enginterzi on Feb 27, 2005 10:43:29 GMT -5
up till 90kg(198)class,i bet that if they let all top 10 russian national finishers to compete the world championships,they would place in top 13 mostly in top 10.
most of the russians hate me,i dont mind.im not so good friends with them:)but i have to write what they deserve.steroids can be an important factor,but also genetics,having tougher lives,better sport discipline and having tougher competetion in their nation are other things that make them best in general and in last 10 years.
my team placement would be;
1-Russia 2-USA 3-Ukraine and the other top ones; Georgia Canada Turkey
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Post by Chris Coletti on Feb 27, 2005 10:59:59 GMT -5
Ali was not the greatest boxer. Not even close. He may have done great things for the sport (When he came in Sonny Liston was the champ and he had brought the sport to new levels of low) Ali took it back to a respectable and watchable level. He had a great chin but I could name at least 5 boxers who would have crushed him in their prime. (One of them was only 185 pounds) The entire Russian team was disqualified in Brazil for refusing the test. Let me guess it ws because of their principals... .
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Post by Ryan Espey on Feb 27, 2005 11:01:26 GMT -5
Ryan,Muhammed Ali was the greatest boxer.talking too much sh.. wasnt the thing that made him greatest Good point Engin... and we all should remember that.
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Post by enginterzi on Feb 27, 2005 11:03:47 GMT -5
3rd the medal may be a peice of plastic to you,but i certainly know i almost do anything for it. from 1993 to 1998 i didnt compete the worlds for money.in 2002 springfield worlds i competed without informing our federation,and i used a fake name.if they knew i would be suspended.again it wasnt for money. Mighty,that gold medal has always been the most important thing in my armwrestling life.and im as hungry as the first time for the next worlds.because reaching the top doesnt make us the number one,but staying at the top makes us number one.this is why the names like Brzenk,Cobra,Patton,Bath,Gashevski,Walker,Tscakilov, Germanus (with 13 WAF titles)and many others to count are the legends of the sport.and this why we dont remember the names (who was at the top for a short time)so often.a spirit of a true champion can not be bought with money,its a gift. Mighty,you have never won a world or european title yet.but your spirit and your faith in your dreams are just amazing.you just dont know how much i respect a spirit like yours.
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Post by Ryan Espey on Feb 27, 2005 11:03:58 GMT -5
Ali was not the greatest boxer. Not even close. He may have done great things for the sport (When he came in Sonny Liston was the champ and he had brought the sport to new levels of low) Ali took it back to a respectable and watchable level. He had a great chin but I could name at least 5 boxers who would have crushed him in their prime. (One of them was only 185 pounds) The entire Russian team was disqualified in Brazil for refusing the test. Let me guess it ws because of their principals... . Chris... keep in mind that a lot of the stuff they test for is stuff that people use every day without realizing they are illegal. I think you would have a lot of the same protests if you tested a major pro tournament in the USA. You can't just spring that on someone.
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Post by enginterzi on Feb 27, 2005 11:06:28 GMT -5
there is another russian team that went to s.africa where was the REAL world championships.
Muhammed Ali wasnt the greatest boxer,he was selected as the athlete of the century.
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Post by enginterzi on Feb 27, 2005 11:45:16 GMT -5
About the steroid thing, How many people not from Russia use anabolics as well? Also, if you're not talented all the steroids in the world won't help you in the least.(BIG MISCONCEPTION) I don't myself but since testing is non existant yet where is the deterant for those who choose to regardless of where they are from? We are in a non tested sport so it's kind of a non issue "Well he's on steroids and I'm not." Yeah so?? I'm not either and this and that person are. (hopefully change in Japan though.) Steroids build muscle yes but are destructive to tendons as the tendons at some point won't be able to hold up the muscle weight and mass and armwrestling is tendon strength. That's how a small armwrestler can beat the big guys in the gym easily (and technique yes obviously too.). -JEFF Jeff,we have never met but im amazed by your intelligence.i agree 100% for the things that you wrote.i found your words very very objective,intelligent and truthful.
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