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Post by Josh Handeland on Sept 30, 2009 19:58:37 GMT -5
These are the 242 lbs. right hand rankings. You guys are gonna have to tell me how it looks because I don't know as many of the 242's/heavy's as I do the lighterweights but I tried.
1. Nick Zinna (obvious #1, untouchable in the midwest at that weight, beats most supers weighing 242)
2. Eric Brown (dominated at nationals (220's), beat Chris Chandler 3-0, smoked Scott Fleming, beat John Wilson, Blaine Middleton, ect.)
3. Tom Dixon (beat Scott Lohmann many times this summer, beat Scott Fleming at Pull for the Hungry)
4. Scott Fleming (1st at nationals in 2007 at 220 lbs. (beating Chris Josten) has beaten Tom Dixon and lots more)
5. Scott Lohmann (has wins om Tom Dixon, Scott Fleming, Fleming beat him in 2006 which was the most recent time they pulled as far as I know)
6. Mike Doppenberg (has wins on Jason Remer, Michael Todd, and Scott Lohmann, needs to compete more)
7. Chris Josten (strong puller, nearly beat Ryan Clark at Pull for the Hungry but fouled when he pinned him)
8. Mark Nutsch (beat Doug Allen and Mike Drew easily at the Toproll Brass Rail tournament)
9. Rod Sellers (has beat Jeremy Boyd, Scott Ballinger, Billy Kirk, Mike Bowling, ect.)
10. Chris Hintgen (strong puller 2nd at IL States over Frank Hirst and Doug Allen)
How does it look???
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Post by Mike Moeller on Oct 1, 2009 0:18:21 GMT -5
robert bishop out of mich and bowling also in there somewhere if this is 198 to 240s right handed? dont know their weights anymore but should be midwest....
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Post by Josh Handeland on Oct 1, 2009 0:38:23 GMT -5
Mike Bowling can make 198 (and is ranked there)... Robert Bishop is a beast but is well over 242. He'll for sure be in the supers rankings when I make them. But thanks for the input, good to know that somebody's reading this.  (more than 1 person I think) |
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Post by Jeremy Plaster on Oct 1, 2009 10:20:21 GMT -5
Yeah Robert is more like 280- 290.... I "THINK"... Bowling is def 198. BUT... Eric can and will beat Nick  Just a matter of time |
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Post by Trapper Saltzman on Oct 1, 2009 11:44:10 GMT -5
I am wondering wher Don Underwood would be on the list? I thought MO was part of this?
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Post by Trapper Saltzman on Oct 1, 2009 11:49:42 GMT -5
Wow...you got Doppenburg as (6) Tommy as (3) Josten at (7) and Lohman at (5)---I agree with Zinna as #1 Eric at #2 Flemming#3 Josten#4Tommy#5maby But he needs to pull some bigger tournaments. and from ther down I don't know?
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Post by Trapper Saltzman on Oct 1, 2009 11:50:19 GMT -5
oops Don's in the Heavy's my bad at first glance thought it was the heavy's
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Post by Trapper Saltzman on Oct 1, 2009 11:55:48 GMT -5
any Idea on when you might give the Heavy's a shot???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Josh Handeland on Oct 1, 2009 12:03:30 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised if Eric does beat Nick especially if Nick's at 225... we'll just have to wait and see though.
How can I put Fleming 3rd and Tom Dixon 5th? The last time they pulled (April 2009, Pull for the Hungry) Tom put him down. Chris Josten lost to Ryan Clark (and Ryan was pulling 2 weight classes) later that month Tommy beat Ryan 3-2 in a supermatch. No doubt Chris is good, maybe he can beat Tommy, but as of now Tommy has beaten people that Chris has lost to. Tommy beats Fleming in April, Chris lost to Fleming at nationals in 2007, have they pulled since then?
Tommy placed above Chris at the 2007 Unified Nationals, last time they were in the same class that I can find. Scott Lohmann has beaten Chris Josten every time they've pulled thus far (at least in the results I can find online). Tommy has beaten Scott probably 3 times this summer if not more.
I had to put Doppenberg at 6th place, he's right he has beaten a several beasts back in his day and he still does compete a couple times a year. I heard he and Howard Lacy may be having a supermatch in 2 days at RK's.
Next will be 242's left and hopefully will tackle the supers right and left next week buddy.
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Post by Trapper Saltzman on Oct 1, 2009 12:18:19 GMT -5
Word...Thanx Josh you kickass.....cant wait...
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Post by Todd Smiley on Oct 1, 2009 14:31:41 GMT -5
The ONLY time Tom has ever pulled Scott Flemming was at Pull for the Hungry this year.. Josten has NEVER beaten Tom right handed, I would say Scott Flemming is still a contender for #3 over Tom though (but Tom is 1-0 against him) Scott Lohmann has had very few wins over Tom this year right handed I want to say 2-12 against Tom. One of my favorite matches with Tom against Chris Josten is from nationals in KC. 3 second match. Tom had just turned 16, smoked Josten to the pad.
Left handed, Josten is better, Lohmann is better, Flemming is WAY better, Tom smoked Hintgen at Pull for the hungry left handed. there are alot of better lefties out there for sure..
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Post by Todd Smiley on Oct 1, 2009 14:39:03 GMT -5
Trapper as far as Tom going to big tournies, how so? You claimed MN was going to be such a huge monster tourny, it got about as many good puller as Pacific Junction.. Tom has beaten good pullers at larger tournies as well as small tournies, does it matter where they get beaten? I think asmall tourny win is more convincing because none of the best pullers at those tournies are worn down from tough matches through the brackets. They end up in the finals warmed up... So you can feel Josten is ranked higher, but he has no wins over Tom at a tourny, so there is not much backing your justification other than personal opinion.
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Post by Todd Smiley on Oct 1, 2009 14:39:55 GMT -5
Also Josh, Scott Lohmann has not beaten Flemming since 06 as far as I know..
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Post by Mike Moeller on Oct 1, 2009 15:12:28 GMT -5
Yeah Robert is more like 280- 290.... I "THINK"... Bowling is def 198. BUT... Eric can and will beat Nick Just a matter of time wow I was waay off on bishop man thanks. I gotta admit I am terrible at ranking people and if you weight more than 176 to me youre too heavy. Is there even a weight class after 176 JP?  |
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Post by Jeremy Plaster on Oct 1, 2009 17:51:16 GMT -5
None that I am aware of my friend |
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(more than 1 person I think)
Just a matter of time 
