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Post by Robert Bishop on Jan 20, 2010 17:12:24 GMT -5
ANYONE who wants my spot can come get it this sat at the ILL st COME TAKE IT FROM ME IF YOU CAN  |
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Post by Dave Chaffee on Jan 20, 2010 21:52:06 GMT -5
Hey Josh, was reading your rankings overall LEFT and they look pretty good but Doug Allen didnt beat Ron Bath at the Rotn nor did Don Fritsche, they placed higher than him but neither beat him, I think Don has wins over Ron in the past though. And in my opinion Scott Fleming beats Doug. Ive pulled them both.
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Post by Josh Handeland on Jan 20, 2010 23:25:18 GMT -5
Thanks for the input Dave! I put Doug above Scott because he beat Don Fritsche, who does have multiple wins over Ron. But Ron has beaten Scott Fleming every time (or at least the majority of times) they have pulled. Your opinion means a lot to me, but maybe Doug has gotten better since you pulled him? It's possible. I wish Doug and Scott would just pull each other already! It's bound to happen sooner or later, but I see how they both do in the next couple days (Doug at Illinois, Scott I assume will be at toproll) and maybe I'll move Scott above Doug.
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Post by Steven Green on Jan 21, 2010 10:47:06 GMT -5
Scotts left is monster. Fritche cant beat Fleming. But that is true about Ron. Fritche's style seems to match up better. The match with Constantino should show the quality of Scott's left. Another factor is Scott has wins on Chandler lefty and Doug does not.
But your rankings are VERY good and we all appreciate it. I cant wait to make them. Maybe if Scott would pull more these days we could see that matchup, but my money is on Scott.
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Post by Josh Handeland on Jan 21, 2010 11:11:54 GMT -5
Don Fritsche might not be able to beat Scott, but Don also can't beat Doug (at least, Doug beat him the 3 times they pulled in 2009 (I think it was 3, ROTN and IL States). You're correct about Scott beating Chris, but Chris beat Doug, and I originally had Doug a few spots down on the 242 left hand rankings. After Doug placed above Ron at ROTN, I moved him above Scott, assuming Doug got better since he lost to Chandler. I am honestly not sure who would win between Scott and Doug, Doug has got a very explosive hit.
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Post by Steven Green on Jan 21, 2010 11:23:57 GMT -5
This week and weekend should tell alot. My goal is to get a win over someone ranked, but they are all very good.
Keep up the good work.
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Post by Shane Vasquez on Jan 21, 2010 14:15:26 GMT -5
I thought doug flopped scott's hand and pinned him? I will have to go back and check i could be wrong? If i'am then Doug beat someone who looked like Scott
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Post by Josh Handeland on Jan 22, 2010 22:59:01 GMT -5
Shane,
do you know which tournament this was? I would like to see that match as well because I never knew they had pulled each other right or left.
You may be thinking of Mike Snelling.
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Post by Shane Vasquez on Jan 24, 2010 13:27:46 GMT -5
I thought it was 09 illinois state..Check it out for me..I can tell you that the match started in a hook then he flopped his wrist then doug pinned him...Let me to,I may have the two of them mixed up..
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Post by Steven Green on Jan 24, 2010 13:47:39 GMT -5
Scott was not at that tourney, but Mike Snelling was. Scott and Doug have not pulled.
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Post by Josh Handeland on Jan 24, 2010 14:42:35 GMT -5
I used to get Mike and Scott mixed up as well but Steven is correct. I'm waiting to hear what happened yesterday but unless Doug beat Robert Bishop (!) or beat someone else there that's really good, I am gonna move Scott above Doug. www.myarmtv.com/player.php?id=369&type=m |
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Post by Steven Green on Jan 24, 2010 19:21:06 GMT -5
Bill told me Doug beat Chandler lefty! We need to see Doug Vs. Scott!!!!!!
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Post by Josh Handeland on Jan 24, 2010 20:23:14 GMT -5
Chandler pulled 2 days in a row though... and Chris laced above Doug in the 242's, Scott gives Chandler a war when he's fresh... so I am putting him above Doug for now. Still want to see the match though.
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Post by Steven Green on Jan 24, 2010 21:05:05 GMT -5
I agree with that.
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Post by Josh Handeland on Jan 24, 2010 23:04:37 GMT -5
Ok I moved Scott Fleming above Doug Allen left handed and also put Razor at 10th right handed in the overall (taking Travis Berggren of) because Razor has beaten Brent Rakers and also because he beat Paul Fischer right handed at the 2008 Wisconsin State Championships. Video of that win can be seen at 5:50 in this video:
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