PEOPLE WHO BELEIVE IN GOD !!!

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or are you telling me that Christians over here WORSHIP THE MOON GOD by calling HIM "ALLAH"?

why Johnny why? Christians at this side of the World became Christians before you western people ever heard of Jesus by the Greek Theologians.

and now you call the ALMIGHTY "GOD" and they have been calling HIM "ALLAH" and you are saying that you worship the almighty but they worship the moon god?

you bet they are better Christians than you are.at least they have much more discipline in their worships than the ones that i saw over there.

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or you again change your mind and since you are educated by me that even the Christians call HIM "ALLAH" now you gave up on moon god claiming? if ALLAH is not originally meant to be GOD (according to who? your web site?) then why is it in the old testament and translated as NOT ONLY "god" BUT ALSO AS "GOD"?


www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/kjv/elahh-aramaic.html



Strong's Number: 0426
Original Word Word Origin
hhla (in Arabic and Hebrew they write from right to left) corresponding to (0433)
Transliterated Word TDNT Entry
'elahh (Aramaic) TWOT - 2576
Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech
el-aw' Noun Masculine

Definition
god, God
god, heathen deity
God (of Israel)


King James Word Usage - Total: 95
God 79, god 16

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Nov 3, 2010 11:49:49 GMT -5 Johnny Edwards said:

Devil is not from God in my opinion. Evil is merely the absence of good.

if GOD did not allow then could there be any evil around? so the permition is within the will of GOD to test our obedience.

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also in your private message you say you respect Islam,if you respect Islam then why do you accuse it with Terrorism by quoting such things? you dont even read what you quote ? or if you read them then do you think of what you read ? if yes then why do you send me PM to mention that you respect Islam?

looking for inconsistence? just look at your actions Johnny

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Nov 3, 2010 14:25:52 GMT -5 Johnny Edwards said:

Ahh but it does Engin. Does not your religion teach that lucifer was once an angel who rebelled against God? Zoroaster said the same thing but before my or your book were ever written........... you gotta be blind to not see the similarities.

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Johnny,

i just can not stop finding the holes in your posts and the ignorance is the reason to cause these holes.if you knew more then you would not follow these ignorant people and quote everything you read without knowing more.

according to Quran GOD has sent a Messenger to every nation amongst their brothers;


35.24. Verily, We have sent thee with the truth, as a bearer of glad tidings and a warner: for there never was any community but a warner has [lived and] passed away in its midst.


i have chatted with the American Indians in USA.i do not know if they all believe the same or not.but they told me that there is a Creator who will punish the evil deeds on the judgement day.

so same message came to each nation but not survived at its origin.even if you tell something to someone,then he tells to another and so on.after sometime what you said at the beginning may come a different message with some of the origin.


who knows maybe even Buddha was a messenger but became someone else same as the Holy Messenger of GOD became another god.


even the origin of Zoroaster religion (which was the religion of the Pers before Islam) teaches 1 and ONLY GOD.they also believe the competetion of GOD and satan,they also believe in judgement day.

so in short he possibly was a Prophet of GOD and brought GOD's message which was corrupted later on.

if Quran says that there has been sent messengers to each nation then why is surprising to see the similar message?

btw for your information,Lucifer is not mentioned in Quran.it is the Latin name of Satan before he became evil.

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from Zoroaster;

" Zoroaster believed in one creator God, teaching that only one God was worthy of worship."

i just checked the name that we use for Zoroaster,we call him Zerdust.

i just checked and he is considered as a Prophet by most of the Muslim authors.so when you remember the verse;


35.24. Verily, We have sent thee with the truth, as a bearer of glad tidings and a warner: for there never was any community but a warner has [lived and] passed away in its midst.


and when you remember these verses as well;


40.78. And, indeed, [O Muhammad,] We sent forth apostles before thy time; some of them We have mentioned to thee, and some of them We have not mentioned to thee. And it was not given to any apostle to bring forth a miracle other than by God's leave. Yet when God's will becomes manifest, judgment will [already] have been passed in all justice, and lost will be, then and there, all who tried to reduce to nothing [whatever they could not understand].



10.47. And every nation had an apostle; so when their apostle came, the matter was decided between them with justice and they shall not be dealt with unjustly.



if GOD did not send a warner to each nation then it would damage my faith in HIM.it is written that messengers came to each nation and i would not expect totally different messages to be sent to each nation.

Zoroaster fought against the pagan gods and his message was based on one and ONLY GOD.

if Quran claimed to be the only message from GOD then your claim would damage my faith but how i feel is a stronger faith everytime i witness the same message of GOD.

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^and clearly you didn't read the manuscripts or study up on them. He comes from a pagan religion an talked about 2 gods "polytheism". You just made my point exactly.

I like how it's cool for you to post offensive stuff towards a religion but not ok for someone to post it back. You proved my other point about that being the only thing you was doing was trying to mock peoples intelligence. What makes your copy and paste any better than anyone elses?

I said no offense taken an I didn't mean any back just proving some points though.

study into the Avesta.

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about the Creation in Quran;


In the Holy Quran, God speaks about the stages of man’s embryonic development:


We created man from an extract of clay. Then We made him as a drop in a place of settlement, firmly fixed. Then We made the drop into an alaqah (leech, suspended thing, and blood clot), then We made the alaqah into a mudghah (chewed substance)... (Quran, 23:12-14)


for details;

www.islam-guide.com/ch1-1-a.htm


conclusion;

Professor Emeritus Keith L. Moore is one of the world’s most prominent scientists in the fields of anatomy and embryology and is the author of the book entitled The Developing Human, which has been translated into eight languages. This book is a scientific reference work and was chosen by a special committee in the United States as the best book authored by one person. Dr. Keith Moore is Professor Emeritus of Anatomy and Cell Biology at the University of Toronto, Toronto, Canada. There, he was Associate Dean of Basic Sciences at the Faculty of Medicine and for 8 years was the Chairman of the Department of Anatomy. In 1984, he received the most distinguished award presented in the field of anatomy in Canada, the J.C.B. Grant Award from the Canadian Association of Anatomists. He has directed many international associations, such as the Canadian and American Association of Anatomists and the Council of the Union of Biological Sciences.

In 1981, during the Seventh Medical Conference in Dammam, Saudi Arabia, Professor Moore said: “It has been a great pleasure for me to help clarify statements in the Quran about human development. It is clear to me that these statements must have come to Muhammad from God, because almost all of this knowledge was not discovered until many centuries later. This proves to me that Muhammad must have been a messenger of God.”

Consequently, Professor Moore was asked the following question: “Does this mean that you believe that the Quran is the word of God?” He replied: “I find no difficulty in accepting this.”

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And I never said the myths are just in your I can see similarities in my book to and in Judaism also only thing is I admit that it can be seen. Lots of islamic practices have a pagan background........... Your whole argument was about a book not being written by the author it was supposed to. My whole argument leading up to now was to prove that all of the books have someone elses influence in them. Or it seems that way I don't believe that way but if you try an point out facts like you was then that would be facts towards all of the books not just the new testament specifically John. You can't even say who physically wrote down the Quran for a fact. It's author is anonymous. How come they burned most of them up in the past?

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Engin look at the dates on your professor. 1981. How far has medical understanding advanced in 29 years?

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To resolve the considerable ambiguity about what exactly we are made of, it has been suggested that all of the above are complimentary accounts, in the same way that a loaf of bread could be said to be made of dough, flour, carbohydrate or molecules. This evades the issue however. The metaphorical description of God making man out of the dust of the earth is ancient and predates the Qur'an by thousands of years; it is found in the Bible in Genesis 2:7. If this was literal it would be in direct scientific conflict with evolutionists who maintain that life was created out of the oceans, but Muslims maintain that we were created both from the oceans and from earth.

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The metaphorical description of God making man out of the dust of the earth is ancient and predates the Qur'an by thousands of years;

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^predates the bible also.

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86:6-7 He is created from a drop emitted - proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs.

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^comes from the testicles.