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Post by Johnny Edwards on Apr 20, 2011 13:12:44 GMT -5
We were discussing the Evolution of man as far as coming from another form of mankind Karen, Not the evolution of a car, plane, the thoughts of man, Your discussing micro evolution not Macro. There are several forms of evolution but as a whole it doesn't exist, only in certain circumstances. People living in the cold tend to have thicker blood. That kind of adaptation is real and does exist there is proof. But the other kind about man evolving from another form does not exist it's a theory with no proof. I just got a recent science magazine I bought and it talks about all the flaws of the big bang theory and why it needs to be done away with also. I don't want to get too caught in these discussions but I have to ask - if you can accept the "man made" evolution from a wolf to a chihuahua then why is the human evolution so impossible? I'd say a monkey looks way more like a human being than a wolf looks like a chihuahua.. There is no proof that a chihuahua came directly from a wolf, here is the difference my friend you have to get into genetics. A monkey can never have a baby with a human correct?  ? Can't happen. Different species of dogs can mate with each other, they are canine's it's not a different species. These "links" or supposed links have different dna, you can't breed with. No proof exist that we came from them either. Most of these forms are contructed from maybe one bone not even near a full skeleton. The evidence is lacking and not there when it comes to saying we evolved from them. It's like saying a fish evolved into a bird. |
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Apr 20, 2011 13:14:21 GMT -5
Same as we have big humans, little humans, dark humans, light humans, fast humans, slow humans, smart humans, dumb humans, ect............ It's the same with canines.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Apr 20, 2011 13:14:28 GMT -5
Not really understanding Why it matters if my opinion is perceived as disrespectful. Everyone else can come on here and mock me and my beliefs and be disrespectful but it's always us Christians who are deemed as intolerant and disrespectful. Interesting... I've been telling non religious people on here before that they are disrespectful so it has nothing to do with you being a christian. (if that was the case wouldn't that be the total opposite of my point here..?) The reason why I took this homo sexual thing as an example is simply because I think it clearly shows what kind of disrespectfulness many people see as ok to say... since it's only about "those gays".... But if it was about "those christians" I know of a certain someone that would be very upset on here..  "do to others what you would have them do to you", remember? Anything else.. wouldn't that be double standards? I respect homosexuals right to do what they want to do. But I have the right to say what I want to say." Yes, and I have the right to say bad stuff about your religion but I'm not doing that for certain reasons.. just like you shouldn't say everything you have the right to. At least if you don't want to be someone with double standards, which isn't the case what I've understood from you. I have and often share my views sometimes when asked and sometimes when not. I have other views you might not agree with but until it's asked of me publicly I wouldn't mention it. Why are you telling me that I'm being disrespectful to gays when my initial comment about it was me defending their GOD given American rights to do what they want to do? That is not a normal stance for Christians like myself. I defend their rights but because I also stated an honest opinion I have double standards? If people mock my faith I'm use to it. I have NEVER asked for these mockers to be kicked off the board, because they have the right to their extremely offensive opinions. But these same mockers have time after time tried to get me banned from this board. |
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Apr 20, 2011 13:17:04 GMT -5
"The dog (Canis lupus familiaris) is a domestic subspecies of the wolf, a mammal of the Canidae family of the order Carnivora. The term encompasses both feral and pet varieties and is also sometimes used to describe wild canids of other subspecies or species. The domestic dog has been (and continues to be) one of the most widely-kept working and companion animals in human history, as well as being a food source in some cultures. The dog is also the first animal from Earth to enter into space and fly into orbit."
most supposed that these early dogs were descendants of tamed wolves, which interbred and evolved into a domesticated species.
other scientists, whilst believing wolves were the chief contributor, suspected that jackals or coyotes contributed to the dog's ancestry.
Caries Vilà of UCLA, who has conducted the most extensive study to date, has shown that DNA evidence has ruled out any ancestor canine species except the wolf. Vila's team analyzed 162 different examples of wolf DNA from 27 populations in Europe, Asia, and North America. These results were compared with DNA from 140 individual dogs from 67 breeds gathered from around the world. Using blood or hair samples, DNA was extracted and genetic distance for mitochondrial DNA was estimated between individuals."
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Post by Ryan Thames on Apr 20, 2011 13:17:16 GMT -5
Heck I HAVE been banned from a "Christian" website!!!
Kinda proud of that actually.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Apr 20, 2011 13:19:49 GMT -5
Most dogs today have been bred to bring out the certain traits you see in different dogs, but its still a canine not a new species.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Apr 20, 2011 13:20:58 GMT -5
And thats why I believe the way I do Charlie. Hope that cleared it up for you. Although sometimes things may look the same they are completely different genetically.
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Post by Charlie Minell on Apr 20, 2011 13:36:22 GMT -5
I've been telling non religious people on here before that they are disrespectful so it has nothing to do with you being a christian. (if that was the case wouldn't that be the total opposite of my point here..?) The reason why I took this homo sexual thing as an example is simply because I think it clearly shows what kind of disrespectfulness many people see as ok to say... since it's only about "those gays".... But if it was about "those christians" I know of a certain someone that would be very upset on here.. "do to others what you would have them do to you", remember? Anything else.. wouldn't that be double standards? Yes, and I have the right to say bad stuff about your religion but I'm not doing that for certain reasons.. just like you shouldn't say everything you have the right to. At least if you don't want to be someone with double standards, which isn't the case what I've understood from you. I have and often share my views sometimes when asked and sometimes when not. I have other views you might not agree with but until it's asked of me publicly I wouldn't mention it. >:(Why are you telling me that I'm being disrespectful to gays when my initial comment about it was me defending their GOD given American rights to do what they want to do? That is not a normal stance for Christians like myself. I defend their rights but because I also stated an honest opinion I have double standards? If people mock my faith I'm use to it. I have NEVER asked for these mockers to be kicked off the board, because they have the right to their extremely offensive opinions. But these same mockers have time after time tried to get me banned from this board. Why are you telling me that I'm being disrespectful to gays when my initial comment about it was me defending their GOD given American rights to do what they want to do? I told you that you were disrespectful to them because you were disrespectful to them... it's as simple as that. For me it doesn't matter what other positive things you had to say about them, just like you wouldn't care that much about my positive remarks about christianity just after I've told you a bunch of other negative things about your religion. That is not a normal stance for Christians like myself. I defend their rights but because I also stated an honest opinion I have double standards? I meant that if you can't take negative remarks about your religion without protesting then you shouldn't give negative remarks about other people or their "faiths" and then think you won't get any protests yourself. |
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Post by Ryan Thames on Apr 20, 2011 14:16:30 GMT -5
I can take negative remarks tho.
So then I can make remarks about other religions.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Apr 20, 2011 14:16:45 GMT -5
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Post by Ryan Thames on Apr 20, 2011 14:31:29 GMT -5
Ryan you might want to seriously study the First Amendment. You'll find you do not have the right to say whatever you please. Nowhere in the constitution are we given the right to not be offended. |
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Post by Karen Bean on Apr 20, 2011 14:33:28 GMT -5
I've been telling non religious people on here before that they are disrespectful so it has nothing to do with you being a christian. (if that was the case wouldn't that be the total opposite of my point here..?) The reason why I took this homo sexual thing as an example is simply because I think it clearly shows what kind of disrespectfulness many people see as ok to say... since it's only about "those gays".... But if it was about "those christians" I know of a certain someone that would be very upset on here.. "do to others what you would have them do to you", remember? Anything else.. wouldn't that be double standards? Yes, and I have the right to say bad stuff about your religion but I'm not doing that for certain reasons.. just like you shouldn't say everything you have the right to. At least if you don't want to be someone with double standards, which isn't the case what I've understood from you. I have and often share my views sometimes when asked and sometimes when not. I have other views you might not agree with but until it's asked of me publicly I wouldn't mention it. Why are you telling me that I'm being disrespectful to gays when my initial comment about it was me defending their GOD given American rights to do what they want to do? That is not a normal stance for Christians like myself. I defend their rights but because I also stated an honest opinion I have double standards? If people mock my faith I'm use to it. I have NEVER asked for these mockers to be kicked off the board, because they have the right to their extremely offensive opinions. But these same mockers have time after time tried to get me banned from this board. Ryan you come pretty close into falling into the "religious fanatic" category but trying to have you banned? That's ridiculous. |
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Post by Karen Bean on Apr 20, 2011 14:34:09 GMT -5
Ryan you might want to seriously study the First Amendment. You'll find you do not have the right to say whatever you please. Nowhere in the constitution are we given the right to not be offended. I'm assuming this makes sense to you? |
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Post by Ryan Thames on Apr 20, 2011 15:00:37 GMT -5
Haha I kinda had a feeling that might have been misunderstood lol
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Post by Ryan Thames on Apr 20, 2011 15:01:11 GMT -5
But yes. Makes perfect sense to me.
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? Can't happen. Different species of dogs can mate with each other, they are canine's it's not a different species. These "links" or supposed links have different dna, you can't breed with. No proof exist that we came from them either. Most of these forms are contructed from maybe one bone not even near a full skeleton. The evidence is lacking and not there when it comes to saying we evolved from them. It's like saying a fish evolved into a bird. 
