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Post by David Owens on Apr 20, 2011 22:01:57 GMT -5
Ryan I never said I didnt believe in god just dont put alot of stock in the bible, and dont exactly believe any god needs our praise or worship to exsist
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Post by Ryan Thames on Apr 20, 2011 22:13:16 GMT -5
Ahh I must have got the wrong impression.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Apr 20, 2011 22:13:44 GMT -5
He absolutely doesn't need us to.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Apr 20, 2011 22:15:55 GMT -5
I didn't even watch the video, I had already seen it before. i did some studying up before and what I learned in College and High School. It's very stretched and far fetched
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Post by Ryan Thames on Apr 20, 2011 22:22:22 GMT -5
Luke 19:40 And he answered and said, I tell you that, if these shall hold their peace, the stones will cry out.
God created us to worship him. But if we his creation do not worship him he will make the rocks cry out.
He is such a worthy and awesome God (and he knows it because he is God) he wants his creation to enjoy him.
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Post by Dan Benoit on Apr 20, 2011 23:49:01 GMT -5
STILL NO PROOF....I believe it.....This is a complete joke....why does everyone keep spinning their wheels.....IT DOES NOT TAKE 49 PAGES TO PROVE SOMETHING....WATCH ILL MAKE A NEW THREAD....THIS SHOULD BE UNDER THE COMEDY FORUM....give us proof and we will accept....until then its just page hits,,,,,RYAN.....lol
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Post by Charlie Minell on Apr 21, 2011 0:54:08 GMT -5
I didn't expect any of you believers to accept this video as any kind of proof.. did it really come out as that was my intention? I only showed Johnny an illustration of some of the "missing links" he mentioned, presented from a non religious view point. Then what everyone wants to do with the information (and in which manner) is up to them, just like always.
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Post by Dan Benoit on Apr 21, 2011 1:09:00 GMT -5
my last post was so ryan doesnt have to talk to himself....and u thought I wasnt caring...
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Post by dixonglory on Apr 21, 2011 3:07:40 GMT -5
Luke 19:40 And he answered and said, I tell you that, if these shall hold their peace, the stones will cry out. God created us to worship him. But if we his creation do not worship him he will make the rocks cry out. He is such a worthy and awesome God (and he knows it because he is God) he wants his creation to enjoy him. agreed ...
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Post by Ryan Thames on Apr 21, 2011 4:51:44 GMT -5
my last post was so ryan doesnt have to talk to himself....and u thought I wasnt caring... Thanks I was feeling lonely lol punk
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Post by Ryan Thames on Apr 21, 2011 6:18:41 GMT -5
Experience true, deep, intimate worship and you will have all the proof you need.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Apr 21, 2011 11:05:53 GMT -5
I didn't expect any of you believers to accept this video as any kind of proof.. did it really come out as that was my intention? I only showed Johnny an illustration of some of the "missing links" he mentioned, presented from a non religious view point. Then what everyone wants to do with the information (and in which manner) is up to them, just like always. It's simple. They do have some fossils, but to support a theory they are trying to make out of nothing, they don't have the proof, not even close. For all I know those were some species that just randomly died out. I always found it funny how there are so many bigfoot sightings, maybe some of those species relatives, thats no more far fetched than saying we evolved from them
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Apr 21, 2011 11:09:56 GMT -5
How come those species couldn't have been from reverse evolution. Humans used to be smarter than us and evolved backwards from the planet protecting itself??? There are too many theories we can throw out there to say one is a fact. The truth boils down to The Theory of Evolution holds no validity and is just what it says a theory not a fact. Just one viewpoint on a question nobody can answer with facts and probably never will. How come some of those skeletons couldn't be the results of genetic mutation due to ancient atomic warfare??? There is evidence of that being something that happened in the ancient past with further screws up carbon dating which isn't truly accurate to begin with.
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Post by Charlie Minell on Apr 21, 2011 14:21:53 GMT -5
I didn't expect any of you believers to accept this video as any kind of proof.. did it really come out as that was my intention? I only showed Johnny an illustration of some of the "missing links" he mentioned, presented from a non religious view point. Then what everyone wants to do with the information (and in which manner) is up to them, just like always. It's simple. They do have some fossils, but to support a theory they are trying to make out of nothing, they don't have the proof, not even close. For all I know those were some species that just randomly died out. I always found it funny how there are so many bigfoot sightings, maybe some of those species relatives, thats no more far fetched than saying we evolved from them I agree with you that there are important proofs missing here and there in the evolution theory, just like in any of the other 100.000+ theories in the world. So it's as you say, we shouldn't call it facts. But to outright dismiss a theory for lack of evidence isn't wisely either... I think the only reasonable thing to do is to keep our discussions on a friendly level when we are speculating, even if some of us happen to think our beliefs are more than just speculations (!). Being aggressive (or disrespectful) in our ways to make others BELIEVE our subjective BELIEFS is just silly and are more signs of lacking arguments and uncontrollable ego needs IMO. Not directing this to you though Johnny, I mean in general.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Apr 21, 2011 14:31:46 GMT -5
^I agree, ego gets in the way a lot and we shouldn't be aggressive towards each other at all, hopefully I haven't come off that way because in a face to face conversation im very laid back 99% of the time, like I said I used to think evolution was a fact all through middle school because it was spoken of as such, but it really is completely dismissed, there is absolutely no evidence to support it besides the theories. The big bang theory even has a little more evidence than the Theory of Evolution does. Thats what I have been trying to say. Well at least thats why I don't support it whatsoever. It was a good idea but didn't hold up to the research into it. Even Darwin himself stated it was wrong........ Need a new theory in it's place because it's factually outdated now.
It's just like the theory of the earth being flat, No evidence ever supported it so it go thrown out. There has to be sufficient evidence to keep it around. Only thing they have done is found a very small number of species that are not humans. The genetic difference is astronomical. Even though chimps have close to our DNA the difference might as well be they came from mars because we are so different when it comes to the DNA level.
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