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Post by Robert Bishop on Sept 30, 2011 22:31:55 GMT -5
end the fed reserve? he would end up being another JFK  |
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Post by Ron Bath on Oct 2, 2011 18:31:32 GMT -5
Cain is the greatest chance to get true change for the better and at least move in the direction of no fed. I have listened to him over the years and he speaks the same now as he has over the years. He has always talked small govt. He also has help keep several companies from the brink which is what we need at this point.
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Post by Logan Schuetzle on Oct 2, 2011 19:54:43 GMT -5
Not a fan of 9 9 9. To think congress will never raise it from 9 is ridiculous. We we will have a 20% sales and income tax. Back when the 16th amendment was(nt) ratified. The tax rate was only 1% and we were told it would never exceed the +6% they added onto the highest income earners to make it a whopping 7%. incomes below 3000 (66,000 today) did not pay anything. Look where it is now. We will never truly be free with an income tax that violates property rights and the 4th amendment, and don't get me started on the IRS!
15% sales tax, no income..
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Post by Chris Kaufman on Oct 2, 2011 21:39:10 GMT -5
Cain is the greatest chance to get true change for the better and at least move in the direction of no fed. I have listened to him over the years and he speaks the same now as he has over the years. He has always talked small govt. He also has help keep several companies from the brink which is what we need at this point. How can he be for getting rid of the FED, when he was the chairman of the KC FED? This quote doesn't sound like he's too concerned... “I have said: ‘I don’t think you’re going to find anything to audit on the Federal Reserve.’” Cain writes. “But they (Ron Paul supporters) want you to believe that Herman Cain doesn’t want the Federal Reserve to be audited.” “It’s really becoming annoying more than anything else.” Cain states. |
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Post by Ron Bath on Oct 3, 2011 17:58:31 GMT -5
Just cause he was chairman many years ago doesn't mean he is a fan of the fed. Also that statement doesn't sound like he is against an audit either. It is just he believes it will not find anything. I have never heard him speak much one way or the other on that issue. I do know he has been for the fair tax for years, but understands it would be impossible to implement at this time til more people become educated on it. I am not sure how far his 999 plan will go but at least it is a call to something more drastic then the same ole BS. that all are beating around. Except for Mr Paul. I wouldn't mind him as President, I just fear two things. One if all his ideas went through it could be too much for the economy and masses at one time. Or he would never get anything done for he would be butting heads with everyone. We got in this mess in a slow process it might take a while to get us to where we need to be but probably never will. Which is back to what the founding fathers and the are constitution wanted. Mr Cain might not be the complete answer as no body is but at least he isn't a career politician. Just my thoughts at this time which are still subject to change. WE JUST FIRST NEED TO GET THIS MAN CURRENTLY OCCUPYING THE WHITE HOUSE OUT!!  |
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Post by Chris Kaufman on Oct 3, 2011 22:25:45 GMT -5
Just cause he was chairman many years ago doesn't mean he is a fan of the fed. Also that statement doesn't sound like he is against an audit either. It is just he believes it will not find anything. I have never heard him speak much one way or the other on that issue. I do know he has been for the fair tax for years, but understands it would be impossible to implement at this time til more people become educated on it. I am not sure how far his 999 plan will go but at least it is a call to something more drastic then the same ole BS. that all are beating around. Except for Mr Paul. I wouldn't mind him as President, I just fear two things. One if all his ideas went through it could be too much for the economy and masses at one time. Or he would never get anything done for he would be butting heads with everyone. We got in this mess in a slow process it might take a while to get us to where we need to be but probably never will. Which is back to what the founding fathers and the are constitution wanted. Mr Cain might not be the complete answer as no body is but at least he isn't a career politician. Just my thoughts at this time which are still subject to change. WE JUST FIRST NEED TO GET THIS MAN CURRENTLY OCCUPYING THE WHITE HOUSE OUT!! Yeah I wish that were the case with Cain. Unfortunately the KC FED is one of the biggest in the country and the fact that he says that we wouldn't find anything says it all IMO. For instance, it's known that that they loaned 16.1 TRILLION during the last "crisis". The fact that they are responsible for the money supply in the country, but aren't held accountable AT ALL is BS. How could there be nothing to find? I do like his stance on some things, and I do like his usual no BS attitude, but I can't overlook his ties to the FED. I guess he has other ties to other globalists as well. I'll find the info and post it. |
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Post by Chris Kaufman on Oct 3, 2011 23:27:31 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong. I'd vote for Cain over Romney, Perry, Backman, Santorum (I REALLY want to punch this Neo-Con ass-bag in the face) any day.
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Post by John Wilson on Oct 4, 2011 14:26:03 GMT -5
Things are getting interesting. The House is calling for a Special Prosecutor to investigate Holder over Gunrunner. Even if it goes nowhere that's bad news in an election year.
Then you have a bunch of wheels in motion from the Left to push Obama not to seek reelection. Hillary is being positioned as a foil to Obama in the primaries as leverage. The rub there is that Hillary's fingerprints might be all over Gunrunner. Never underestimate the Clinton machine, though. But it will be interesting to see how far Holder will go to protect Obama. Will he sacrifice Hillary to save Obama or will he keep her out of it for the good of the DNC if he believes Obama is toast in 2012?
Between Solyndra, Gunrunner, and assassinating an American citizen as an Enemy Of The State without due process, things aren't stacking up very well for the DNC.
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Post by Chris Kaufman on Oct 4, 2011 15:04:36 GMT -5
Things are getting interesting. The House is calling for a Special Prosecutor to investigate Holder over Gunrunner. Even if it goes nowhere that's bad news in an election year. Then you have a bunch of wheels in motion from the Left to push Obama not to seek reelection. Hillary is being positioned as a foil to Obama in the primaries as leverage. The rub there is that Hillary's fingerprints might be all over Gunrunner. Never underestimate the Clinton machine, though. But it will be interesting to see how far Holder will go to protect Obama. Will he sacrifice Hillary to save Obama or will he keep her out of it for the good of the DNC if he believes Obama is toast in 2012? Between Solyndra, Gunrunner, and assassinating an American citizen as an Enemy Of The State without due process, things aren't stacking up very well for the DNC. No kidding!!! Plus the firestorm that is Occupy Wall St. Obama and the globalists are trying to influence/take over the movement. I just hope people see through it and start occupy the Federal Reserve Buildings across the US. |
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Post by Max Moore on Oct 4, 2011 16:52:34 GMT -5
whats sad is that the media has managed to make people believe that they can accomplish "change" through the poles/elections.
that is a joke.
i have never seen a single candidate that represented the interests of the majority of this country. period.
its a popoularity contest filled with mudslinging and double talk and the best liar wins. this system has become so incentivised to fraud that it systematicall weeds out the straight shooter and the SH!T that is left over rises to the top.
there is no accountability for the promises made on the campaign trail or on television. just keep smilin and printing more money...cus that all people want anyway right???
go ahead and pick from the pawns that the military industrial complex and the funds have set before you.....they are stool pigeons of the same class of individual that brought you offshore oil drilling, nuclear bombs, napalm, sensor fused weapons, nerve agents, the pharmaceutical epidemic, and GEORGE W FU%$IN BUSH!!!
yaaaaaaaayyyyy!!!!!!
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Post by Chris Kaufman on Oct 11, 2011 22:05:22 GMT -5
From Ron Paul 2012:
"In tonight's debate, Congressman Paul asked Former Fed Chair Herman Cain why he doesn't support an audit of the Federal Reserve and he said "You have to be careful about what you read on the internet... I do not object to an audit of the Federal Reserve" - Here is something you can listen to from the Internet... You decide"
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Post by Jacob Hale on Oct 11, 2011 23:16:24 GMT -5
Ron Paul. I like the guy but he has a 1776 few of the world. I think thats fine when you are talking about domestic policies, taxation, civil liberties, and so forth. However, when Iran is actively pursuing a nuclear weapon which would threaten the existence of Israel, destabilize the Middle east and possibly the world, we cannot stand on the side-lines and let it happen because that is what our founding fathers set forth in the constitution. I doubt very seriously that the founding fathers could ever have anticipated the our world, international relations, and the possibility of global mass destruction weapons. Isolationism was a great idea at one time but that all went out the door with the invention of the ICBM and pay-load carrying aircraft.
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Post by Chris Kaufman on Oct 13, 2011 20:05:41 GMT -5
^^^^
If we didn't bomb and kill hundreds of thousands of people and prop up dictators in the Middle East and around the world, I seriously doubt the "threat" would be there. It's not isolationism, it's common sense and NOT war profiteering, which is what we've been doing for the past 100+ years. The rich get richer off of our soldiers blood, it's been proven over and over again. The threats are fabricated to get the masses to believe in THEIR cause.
Don't believe the Herman Cain Hype:
Especially check around 4:00!!!
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Post by Max Moore on Oct 13, 2011 20:33:25 GMT -5
^^^^ If we didn't bomb and kill hundreds of thousands of people and prop up dictators in the Middle East and around the world, I seriously doubt the "threat" would be there. It's not isolationism, it's common sense and NOT war profiteering, which is what we've been doing for the past 100+ years. The rich get richer off of our soldiers blood, it's been proven over and over again. The threats are fabricated to get the masses to believe in THEIR cause. Don't believe the Herman Cain Hype: Especially check around 4:00!!! exactly what you said. we are the terrorists of the world. only we get to call it what we wnat since we are the ones writing the history books and controlling the major media as the financial/industrial leader of the world. but fear not...we have managed to squander that gift in record time. this is not a new development...contrary to popular belief....in fact this has been the basic outline for all empirees in history...change the names, dates, places and weapons and it all looks like a cookie cutter business plan to rape pillage and plunder the less industrialized countries who have no voice. Smedley Butler, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Dr Martin Luther King are but a few modern americans that clearly warned of undue outside infuence that would be place on government and foreign policy due to the enormous amount of personal wealth that war generates for the private sector. look up some of the speaches and memoirs of these men and others...you will see quite plainly that the truth is much simpler than most people believe. but while simple and deliberate in its goals...the "plan" policy this government uses is much more complex in its implementation. layered complexity allows for a very low level of clarity...allowing for there to be even less accountability for those pulling the strings. now i dont mean to make it sound as though the "leaders" of the free world are like Dr Evil sitting around laughing and plotting the fate of the world......but their actions mirror a system of beliefs that belong to a class of people far removed from what anyone i know belongs to. and the reason this "evil" cannot and will not be rooted out is becaus the elite of this world are so pompous, so righteous, so sure that they are the best of us....that they will die defending their actions ...............even though those very actions and beliefs ultimately doom the rest of the planet. but they are simply the result of a system (capitalism) that weeds out the honest and allows the crap to float to the top. in a dog eat dog world the being that is willing to scrape, steal, coerse, embezle, backstab and lie his way to the top will always ultimately triumph over those that let their concience prevail. sorry....but if you believe this to be false there isa no hope for you. as the saying goes...in 1776 one thing happened....we traded 1 tyrant 3000 miles away for 3000 tyrants 1 mile away. and rest asured......as all dictators before them....... they will not go quietly........ so kick the tires and light the fires boys.......its gnna be fun. |
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Post by Chris Kaufman on Oct 13, 2011 23:19:54 GMT -5
^^^I agree 100% This little Occupy Wall St. thing is just the beginning....
Don't let the media fool you, it's not all just hippies and kids.
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