My responses to Willie are in the {brackets}
From: Berriochoa, Simon
Sent: Sun 8/27/2006 10:51 AM
To: waf
Cc: Asen Hadjitodorov; asenhdj@mail.bg; Assen Hadjitodorov; fred roy; Roy, Fred
Subject: RE: just a consideration
Please see my responses below in red and inside brackets in case you cannot see the color.
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From: waf [mailto:waf@brasdefer.be]
Sent: Sun 8/27/2006 5:54 AM
To: Berriochoa, Simon
Cc: Asen Hadjitodorov; asenhdj@mail.bg; Assen Hadjitodorov; fred roy; Roy, Fred
Subject: just a consideration
Hi Simon,
just a small email to you and to precise couples of thinks.
Best regards Willy
Here is the way that we have proceeded at the EAF’s anti-doping test.
Frederic André-Director of the doping committee is with two official doctors –a woman and a man -from Hungary doping committee who are speaking good English and Russian languages in a special room with toilets.
They have their own official paperwork as required by the Wada code and Hungarian IOC.
One to announce the doping test and his procedure to the competitor’s draw lot to toss; one to make the right protocol required by the IOC committee of Hungary and Wada for the doping test.
Each competitor has signed his first paper when he choice the doping test card, has been drive to the special room by the doctor;
In this room, the doctors have explained the procedure required and have proceeded at the question nary in regard of each competitor case and urine’s control.
No-one has provided a TUI to the doping committee and doctors.
Eaf was not involved in this procedure except the presence of his director committee.
Unfortunately, the Hungarian doctors did not take their official addresses countries of each competitor as we do in Japan.
{ Any reference I would make would be to the WAF I have not been involved in the EAF, (despite my repeated emails to Assen with questions and concerns that he has continually ignored).....Not really much to say here except I have never seen any program detailed anywhere in armwrestling regarding athletes submitting a TUE, Therapeutic Use Exemption, I assume this is what you mean by TUI, how would an athlete go about submitting one, as an athlete I have not seen or heard of a policy that would allow me to avail myself of a TUE. Where is that policy within the existing doping protocols? We cannot follow the WADA TUE protocol because not all countries have their armwrestling groups in line with that countries ADA group, which is a required and key component of the WADA TUE process, so to follow WADA we must make available to the athletes a TUE program which we do not have, and other that Rick and I pushing you to facilitate this subject at the WAF level it has never been addressed, reason number 1 why I say we clearly have not provided the athletes with a fair and WADA compliant doping protocol, if we do not make TUE's available we are not following WADA, period.}
Here is the way step by step that we have proceed to announce the EAF positive test:
I receive an email from the Austrian laboratory aggregated by the Hungarian anti-doping committee
Email 17-08 from laboratory:
Dear Mr. Deneumostier,
Attached you find letters with information about samples containing prohibited substances from the European Armwrestling Championship. The test report (number LC 1172/2006) has been sent to the Hungarian Anti-Doping Group.
Best wishes, Guro Forsdahl
ARC Seibersdorf research GmbH
Doping Control Laboratory
A-2444 Seibersdorf
Tel: + 43 50550 3565
Fax: + 43 50550 3566
E-mail: guro.forsdahl@arcs.ac.at
Email from Willy 18-08 to the EAF executive committee and doping EAF committee
Lady and Gentlemen,
There is the report from The Austrian laboratory in regard of the sample A.
We have six positive tests. We will follow the Wada code procedure in regard of this test.
Best regards Willy
President : Assen Hadjitodorov, vice-president : Filimonov Alexander, Petrenko volodymir, Andre jean Frederic, Harri Naskali head referee , Marian capla director of scoring , Mazurenko Igor general secretary.
Doping committee:
Petra Spatz, André Jean frédéric, Filimonov alexander
Email to the EAF president and doping committee president: 18 08
Gentlemen,
This email must be strictly confidential between Mr Hadjitodorov, Frederic Andre and myself.
We need to take the responsibility of this both three.
We can send this official paperwork to the Russian federation but we need to be sure that no-one else will know the names of the competitors except the Russian president and his committee.
If someone declare and let know the names of this positive test we will be responsible of this.
I try to contact the Hungarian anti doping group Vadkerti-Basa Balint to receive a copy of the complete test made in Hungary. Unfortunately, I can not contact them at the phone number that I receive during our stay. Mobile 06302066639 I try again to contact them by email.
Let me know what we are doing to continue the procedure
Assen could you be able to contact the Russian federation and request that they send us the addresses of those competitor or if they contact themselves we need the official receive made by acknowledge post registered mail of each competitor as I have done with Klimenko ?
By preventive action, these competitors can not be selected for the world championship 2006.
We need to know fast it is possible if they wish to analyse their B samples.
Best regards Willy
Email from Hadjitodorov Assen 22-08 to the Russian federation
Dear Sasha,
With this e- mail, I am sending you the official doping test results from the European Championship in Hungary.
Unfortunately six of the Russian competitors are with positive doping test. I attached those files to this e-mail. You are involved in this cause from the both side, once as a President of RAA and as a member of the Doping Committee of EAF. That why we really need your help to
solve this problem very fast and correctly. First of all this information is really confidently and we should keep the names of the competitors in secret. We have no addresses and the contact phone numbers of those athletes, kindly send us the coordinates as soon as possible so we can send them the results in legal way. Kindly inform them personally that till the final results they have no right to joint any competition and they have right to ask for test B, which will confirm or unconfirmed the test A. Kindly notice that all the expenses for the opening of Test B will be paid from their self or from RAA. I strongly believe that you are unprejudiced and we count on your help to solve this problem.
Best regards, Assen Hadjitodorov.
Could you tell me what we make it wrong at this time?
{Please show me the actual emails you sent as you claim above, I am not stupid this is nothing more than a timeline you created and has no more validity than anything else I have ever heard, emails have time and date stamps, you seem to have gone to the trouble to copy and past in the alleged text yet you purposely left out the email headers that validates them, why is that, if in fact these things happened as you claim, then you should have just copied all of the email here instead of omitting the email stamps to be replaced by your typing of what, to whom, when.}
Unfortunately, the Russian federation has published the names of their competitors in their web side before the following procedure of the B samples. Why? I don’t know. Assen has phone to Mr Filimonov to have an explanations on this without any reply already.
You can see in our messages that we will keep it secret before the end of the procedure.
{Now again talking WAF here, please show me where in the WAF protocol we have details to the effect of public announcements regarding possible or confirmed positive tests, considering how badly it went last year what have we done to correct or address this issue? You and I know we have done nothing with Manchester only 9 weeks away, despite all of the concerns and discussion from other members of the doping group you guys have failed to address this significant issue. Does the EAF anti doping code have a policy regarding disclosure of test results? Am I really to believe something as important as ruining the lives of athletes is hinging upon you telling Sasha in an email to keep this quiet? What about Petra telling Robert and Robert publicly posting that there were 6 failures am I really to believe such a process is good for the sport and the athletes, after all look what it led to, again another reason why we do not have a proper WADA protocol}
Now you are criticizing all our methods in regard of doping test and what we do. I don’t want to make a polemic but you are trying to make believe that we don’t make our work in the right way. It is so easy to do as you do but I can not agree with your methods because you don’t tell the truth to the peoples.
You make an interpretation of certain facts because you don’t agree with a certain politics taking by the WAF’s executive committee appointed by their members and you only think that yours interpretations is the right one. It is not democratic as you try to do.
{Now you are calling me a liar... how dare you I am the only person calling this what it is, in no time above I have proven that we do not have a proper WADA policy in place as the Congress voted for, being WADA does not mean just testing for WADA banned substances, everything else comes with it, this fact is what I have tried to resonate with you for a long time, you have taken only the parts you care to and ignored the rest, predominantly the parts that protect the rights of the athletes, all of us know we have handled this in a very fly by night manner, and there is no one to blame but you three, the doping committee has been here trying but you guys just ignore us, you keep all the pertinent information hidden away refusing to tell the doping committee what you are doing or how we are going to facilitate the testing despite my continued request to you all on this subject you have never provided anything tangible...then at the last moment Willie you pull it out from behind closed doors and throw it together, without any discussion of the doping group, I am sorry is that democratic to you? I have tried and tried to work with you three for years, at every turn you have been nothing short of pompous, arrogant and dismissive, I have given you ample opportunities to engage in internal dialogue with me on this and other subjects, but you have chosen not to hear me, so you leave me no choice but to make you hear me everyday, everywhere until you start treating the sport and its athletes properly, the voice of the people is part of the democratic process, trust me I live in a democracy }
Come to the congress 2006, give me a real proposal that can be defend and agree by all, not as 2005 where you have the opportunity to defend yours ideas and not will be there.
You were appointed by waf into doping committee with these peoples.
I write that you have all the opportunities and white cards to make a real code for WAF to hold their doping test in regard of the specificity of our sport and now you said that we don’t allow you to do something and we did no take in count yours proposals. I am not involved in your committee. Every time that you send me an email or proposals it will be aggregated by your committee not by me. My job is to put up the table your proposals coming from this committee in the agenda of the world armwrestling federation every year congress. If you don’t find an agreement between you inside this committee don’t accuse me to not taking in count what you said.
Give me a real motion and a real procedure and it will be put front on the congress as my duties are. The best for all is not to talk and talk but make action.
We have one WAF doping rules and we apply this code. If you don’t agree with it, change it make motion. Don’t try to say that I don’t make my job.
The duties of your committee are clear: give us the opportunity to make the best for all. That’s all that I want. I don’t understand very well what you are trying to do but it is probably not in regard of this different case that you are so virulent and aggressive with Fred, Assen and me.
{No, no, no, you don't get to try and pull me in to help now...I have tried for a very long time to avail myself as a resource to the WAF and you three continue to ignore me and everyone else, not so much as even explaining why you think we are wrong, I have sent the doping group email and proposal after proposal to implement the proper WADA policies.. all ignored, Assen has never so much as even responded in addressing the items I have sent him. What good is this committee if Willie and Assen are just going to run around in the back alleys doing what ever the damn well please anyway? Last year I pleaded with the doping committee to discuss the formal information of what we were doing in Japan, nothing, nothing, nothing then, oh Willie is taking care of it with some contacts he has, how is that a functioning democratic group? After the issues with announcements and Artem from Japan, I sent multiple emails to the group regarding the need to develop a standard for disclosure, all fell on deaf ears. This year I asked Fred and Neil directly what are we doing with the doping in Manchester, not that I should have to ask them because I am on the doping committee, but Willie has not told anyone anything....both Fred and Neil replied, Willie is putting it together, considering you are not part of this group Willie explain why all of the work we try to do in the group goes in the toilet and then you simply slap something together at the last minute, without any discussion or notification of the doping group. Candidly the group is just a dodge, you guys are going to do what you want anyway that is evident by how it has functioned the last two years. I am not some child or an idiot, I have a genius level IQ, an MBA and I have been in executive management with major companies for 2 decades, I live in court and legalese, candidly I have never seen anything more poorly run than the WAF. I made myself available to the WAF for too long, you had your chance to work with me toward a better WAF, you did not want it, so reap what you sow. }
In 2003, we plan to introduce a doping test into WAF world events and create a doping committee. We discuss it into the congress and vote this motion:
Motion: To create a Sub-Committee for Doping Control. In order to be recognized by the Olympic Committee we must show that we are serious looking to control doping in our sport. Mr. J-F André - Belgium, Ms. Spatz – Germany and Mr. Pinkney – Canada. Mr. Hadjitodorov will be the Executive Member of the WAF to sit on this Committee.
Some discussion occurred about starting this procedure before we have the Unified Championships, it was decided that the work could get started and other members could join once we are unified. Motion by: Belgium – Mr. Snoeck
Seconded by: Canada – Mr. Koenig All in favour: 24 Unanimous – Carried
{I have proven we do not need to be WADA or dope testing in order to obtain Olympic consideration, not that we ever will get to Olympic consideration despite the fact that I handed you FILA on a silver platter, the Olympic committee gave you a list of concerns to take back to FILA well over a year ago regarding their proposal, and despite repeatedly asking you to tell us where you are at with this issue, you have ignored the question, again and again and again, only recently telling Leonard, you have done nothing with it, you are either lying about the FILA situation or you have failed this sport significantly by dropping a golden opportunity such as FILA in the dirt, which is it Willie?}
In 2004 this motion is voted at the congress.
Mr. Pinkney as part of the Doping Control Committee has made inquiries in regards to the rules of testing. You can go to the web site at
www.wada-ama.org for all the information.
a) The cost is $200 U.S. per test
b) You must have a doctor on staff
c) You must have a certified laboratory
d)You cannot decide who you will be testing, it must be random and they have many rules around that.Mr. Endo would like to confirm that they will supply the doctor required for doping control.Discussion occurred on the importance of Dope Control.
Motion to budget $2000 to pay for doping control at the next World Championships in Japan. Proposed by: General Secretary – Mr. Willy Deneumostier
Seconded by: Canada – Rick Blanchard for 26 Carried
In 2005, in Japan there is the official report of the doping committee
Doping Control Committee Report – Assen Hadjitodorov
I would like to welcome everyone to the 27th World Armwrestling Championships and I am very happy that we are together. This year we will start to do something historic by conducting Doping Tests. We have done this already in June 2005 in Sofia, Bulgaria. We conducted 20 doping test – 1st to 3rd in all Woman and Men’s classes left and right hand and I am very proud that all 20 tests were negative. It is clear for everyone that Armwrestling is a clear sport. I think that we will have the same results at the World Armwrestling Championships. I will give my colleague Rick Pinkney a member of the Doping Committee the chance to explain to you the procedures for the Doping Test which will be conducted at this year World Championships.
Rick Pinkney would like to go over a few items to explain the procedure. We will be following the WADA anti doping code but we have written our own anti doping code following WADA. We will be following the WADA banned substance list. We will be using an approved laboratory here in Japan. We will be doing 20 tests in the two days 10 Right and 10 Left Senior Woman and Men’s classes. They will be broken down by 6 men’s classes and 4 woman’s classes. We will use the two 2 in each classes. It will be a random test. At the end of their competition the top 2 competitors will be asked to pick a piece of paper, if there is a D on the paper you will be asked to go to Doping Control. You may bring a coach, trainer or an official with you.
1st offence is a warning or one year suspension depending on the drug you are caught with. 2nd offence is two years and 3rd offence is lifetime. Also, please be aware that a year might be a little longer because of the dates of the World Championships. If you are caught using this year you will be banned for the next years Championship even if it is a little more the one year.
Over the next year everyone should make they aware of what is on the banned substance list. It is on line at World Anti Doping Association web site.
There are many substances and it is more than anabolic steroids. Hopefully we will have all 20 negative results.
Motion to accept the two reports as presented: England – Neil Pickup Seconded by: Germany – Robert Kornek All in favour: Carried – 29 votes
Mr. Deneumostier would like to point out that anyone can join this Committee should they like. We should have someone from each Continental Federation on the Committee. Mr. Capla has a Dr. He would like to see on the Committee. Mr. Hadjitodorov will make certain that he is invited to join. It is important that we have a doctor in each National Federation in order to facilitate the doping tests.
Committee Members are: Assen Hadjitodorov – Chair Rick Pinkney – Canada Fikrat Kerimov – Uzbekistan Petra Spatz – Germany Simon Berriochoa – USA J-F André – Belgium
{Clearly you can see that the motion called for and was carried on the back of "the" WADA code which we all know we are not properly following, and if we are not following the WADA doping code we are not provided the sport with that which the Congress voted on and carried, plain and simple. You are violating our doping measure by not properly availing the sport of all aspects of WADA, this is what I have been saying all along.}
Now Simon we need action not words and words.
I can be contact be all and reply to all this allegations against WAF. I am not afraid to give information in regard of what we do. Show up all the paperwork we have, reply to all. I am not a liar, not a power man or a politic man. I am just an armwrestlers who want to make recognised his passion as a real sport since 20 years now. Best regards Willy .I stay on your serve.
{Maybe you started with a passion for this sport but you may have long since lost your way in my estimation, my perfect example is the fact that you surprise drug tested non Belgium athletes at your event, clearly a violation of WADA protocol, Fred you then allowed the WAF doping protocol to suspend these athletes, again a significant violation. Willie you have yet to ever properly explain your actions or respond to my concerns from Belgium, that was not about cleaning up the sport and it was certainly not in the best interest of the sport, not to mention a clear violation of the athletes rights. So it leaves me to wonder if you really want doping to better the sport or are you simply pounding your chest telling the sporting world "see we are drug testing, look how many drug users we have caught" "take us seriously" if you really want what is best for the sport why have you ignored the education of the athletes on this subject, not to mention completely ignoring the parts of WADA that protect the rights of the athletes, it is not as though I have not brought these up to you and the group time and time again, what excuse can you have for having so little concern for the athletes?}
{In order "to serve" in a democratic manner Willie you must first be willing to listen, and engage in a democratic manner, I have seen none of that in my dealings with you or the WAF. }
Simon Berriochoa
"The athletes come first!"