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Post by Bad Draw Rhodes on Dec 3, 2004 20:41:59 GMT -5
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 4, 2004 3:25:51 GMT -5
Vephkia has lost to Eldarov,Haydar,Karajaev,Gashevski and all these happenned when hw was training real hard in his country.he s a very good puller with an incredible wrist strength but to compare him with Babaev one needs to know both of them.i do know both of them,the only man on this earth under 80kg that Rustam may not be able to beat is Tschakilov.im sure that most of you dont know these names well enough as i do.im ready to bet anyone who thinks Vephkia or another name can beat Rustam.he is bad!bad to the bone:)bad enough to scare engin terzi:)he can not toproll Vephkia but he can hook and beat him so badly.why dont we ask to Dream Team members about what they think about Babaev?they were so close witnesses of this machine:)
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Post by Matt Preston on Dec 4, 2004 8:23:43 GMT -5
I believe a "wiseman" is always better than a machine after all it is wise men that make machines.
I know this is a dream that will probably never happen but i would like to see the day where armwrestling is "juice" free. Then the champions of this sport will be the champions that can move this sport forward.
Babayev is no machine he is a juice monster and I do not believe he is unbeatable. I am sure there is a "Wiseman" out there that WILL beat him real soon!
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Post by Joe Bacca on Dec 4, 2004 12:18:45 GMT -5
Matt, thats the TRUTH... but every top guy seems to be on something... at least most top world class pullers... well we shall see what will happen soon or later... maybe I'll do "gene doping" & show you all what the future or steroids has to offer...  |
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Post by James on Dec 4, 2004 14:44:25 GMT -5
Harry, I too would like to see the sport cleaned up, but I don't agree with your assessment that every top guy is on something.
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Post by Yuval Bar on Dec 4, 2004 16:50:33 GMT -5
I think that vepkia have a better genetics than babayev
i think in the same condition ,juice and training vepkia will win.i pulled him 9 yrs ago on practice table in the Europen champion he won the 70kg.in the same championship i pulled gashevski and i toproled him twice
he slept in both of them he beat me in the strap the 3 time but he wasn`t so strong. i could beat him.when i pull with vepkia i could not move him he has a very powerful wrist like the best armwrestlers in the 85kg
i think that in that time he was unbeaten and much stronger than gashevski was.
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 5, 2004 8:17:12 GMT -5
in last 10 years Gashevski won 9 european titles.after the tournament i have seen many times even John Brzenk has lost.to a professional after the tournament means just a NOTHING.no one practices to win after the tournament:).its just deceiving only your own self to lose in the the tournament but get satisfaction by the winnings after the tournament.what would it mean if i would have won a tournament without any competetion and pull after the event and lost to everyone that i beat in the tourney?would this make them better than me?what do we read as results?the winner of after the tourney?i have never read the after tournament winners as an official results:).if anyone has contact with Vephkia please let him ask Vephkia how Haydar beats him.my friend Haydar both in 98 worlds and 00 europeans beat Vephkia so easy that you couldnt believe.in 00 europeans Haydar just hooked him then looked at the cameras and had pictures then pin him like nothing.but if you go and ask Haydar how he would do against Babaev,he will tell you that there s no way to beat him.
if a man is using juice then this dont mean that he cannot be also a wise man to perform with a best style.i have armwrestled against many juicy monsters for over 10 years.im the same Turkish man that Russians have been armwrestling since 1993.they will find the same angry Turk at the next event but i meet new faces all the time.and if you ask me they are juicy too.but Babaev is something else he doesnt really have any weakness.the smartest armwrestler i have ever met is Cvetan Gashevski,and if he couldnt find any weakness with Babaev then i dont think any one can beat Rustam without being stronger than him.
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Post by Amedeo Goga on Dec 5, 2004 12:02:47 GMT -5
Hey Engin, how are you doing ? You posted that this guy is the only one who could possible beat Babayev ?
Is this his right name ? Please let me know !!!
TAIMOURAZ TSAKHILOV
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 5, 2004 13:24:02 GMT -5
yes its his name but since he s a Russian im not sure about spelling.
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Post by Matt Preston on Dec 5, 2004 14:05:26 GMT -5
True Babayev is freakishly stup-idly strong but do u really believe he has no weakness. im sure he does and Cvatan WILL beat him i am sure of it and I am also sure that many others will beat him. A great UK puller told me a couple of years ago that Armwrestling is a thinking mans game and I really believe that! It is a strength sport and so yes you do need 2 be strong but strength is only half good if you are an amatuer in where to apply that strength and compared to the likes of Cvetan and "wise Grip" Andy Barker Babayev is a technical amatuer.
who agrees with that?
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 5, 2004 14:17:24 GMT -5
if i know armwrestling you can not beat Babaev without being stronger.there s only one weakness that he had till europeans in Poland but as far as i saw his last matches in zloty tour i have felt that he doesnt have same weakness any more.his weakness was by pinning the guys at last 2 inches.but not many could use his weakness because not many had that good defence.talking about future hopes by forgetting what happens now is not realistic but idealistic.Cvetan has pulled Rustam in 2003 zloty twice and lost in an eye blink at both times,then he pulled Rustam again in july for a vandetta match and again lost 5 to 0 with an ease,last time they pulled in zloty 2004 again Rustam beat him so fast that i did 16 times slow motion to realise Rustam's style.so works are prove but dreams arent.
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 5, 2004 14:37:05 GMT -5
Cvetan and Rustam will again meet on december 18. in Bulgaria for best 78kg in the world.i was invited but Dursun will go instead of me.i have never been flashed in my category in my entire armwrestling life and i believe it would happen if i armwrestle Babaev with 70kg body weight.so i better wait for my time.there will be 8 strong armwrestlers in Bulgaria,Shamil Karajaev will be there too.Matt,when do u think Cvetan will beat Babaev?if you are thinking that there is a possibility that to happen on 18.,then maybe we can have a small betting?i pay 10 dollars for your each dollar.deal?
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Post by Yuval Bar on Dec 5, 2004 17:42:20 GMT -5
I toproled gashevski in the tournament. not in practice
my weight was 65kg gashevsk weight was 75kg.i was force to compete in the 75 kg category.gashevski whirst was very weak it was not hard to open is whirst.vepkhia hand was like a wall he was much stronger than gashevski or any competitor up to 75kg he flashed every one in the tournament.he was very strong very technical and very very quick.i think that he was in his best shape and mybe he stop training hard after that.i saw many good pullers that stop training
and went to tournaments and lost to a much weaker puller.i think its all in the genetics i saw babyev hand forearms whirst they look normal i think that u engin have better genetics than him u are more exp more technical than him its just the power. and its not coming from hard trining along if he was clean i think that u flashed him easy.
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Post by Bad Draw Rhodes on Dec 5, 2004 17:45:37 GMT -5
"2005 there will be no more questions"-Rhodes 12/5/04
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Post by Joe Bacca on Dec 5, 2004 19:14:48 GMT -5
Ok guys, we can talk about this forever & ever & ever... lets just get all these guys together & see who the beast is... |
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