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Ghosts
Feb 2, 2005 14:30:44 GMT -5
Post by simon on Feb 2, 2005 14:30:44 GMT -5
OK who believes in ghosts and why, what are ghosts really, can anyone believe in ghosts and not believe in god/soul/spiritual world? Why do ghosts/spirits seem to be only out at night in old houses of some alleged trauma? Why do ghosts/spirits appear as only vague partially distinguishable puffs of smoke to people that claim to see or photograph them? Why do ghosts/spirits seem to communicate in only rudimentary unintelligible little comments, i.e. calling out peoples names repeatedly, or short ominous phrases like “get ouuuuutttttt” Why are all of the happenings attributed to ghosts silly little parlor tricks? “the radio just came on by itself” “the lights went off”, “the door slammed shut”, “my coffee cup moved to the edge and fell off of the table”. What is there some kind of ghost/spirit rule book that forbids them from doing anything more than that? I know someone will say that ghosts are spirits trapped due to unfinished business on earth and they are single in their purpose to complete it. I am sure spilling coffee enough times is going to help them solve what ails them. If I was a ghost I would find me a nice place to live, very upscale, I would travel, go to parties introduce myself and talk to people hell I would fly right into the National Enquirer (with a still living family member in tow, to collect the money) and grant them a full interview and picture layout. I would fight crime, scare, torture and even eliminate evil doers from this earth. Someone has to bring some true justice to this world.
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Ghosts
Feb 2, 2005 14:37:52 GMT -5
Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Feb 2, 2005 14:37:52 GMT -5
GHOSTS NOW...LOL...
How about the Boogie man?...LOL...
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Ghosts
Feb 2, 2005 14:52:23 GMT -5
Post by Tony Carpenter on Feb 2, 2005 14:52:23 GMT -5
This is a good thread to talk about not just ghosts, but superstitions as well.
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Ghosts
Feb 2, 2005 14:57:31 GMT -5
Post by Ryan Thames on Feb 2, 2005 14:57:31 GMT -5
I defenitly agree with this one A person has a body (physical body) soul (mind and emotion) and spirit (concience) The bible says that to be absent from the body is to be present with the lord. When you die your either in heaven or hel you do not lingir(sp) on this earth. Your soul can never do anything good enough to merit your way into heaven. Any christian that believes that spits in the face of Christ on the cross. THERE IS NO PURGATORY. There is an instance in the bible where a man saw someone he knew but he was dead. And in hell. The sight this man saw was not the man he knew but what is called a familiar spirit, it is a demonic spirit. According to the bible Satan and his demons are not in hell they are on the earth roaming. They will go to hell after the end of this age. I believe in demonic activity. But through prayer can be easily removed. Sadly some want to believe that their loved stayed around to comfort them for awhile and then they open themselves up for necromancing/talking to the dead (Joseph Smith) (Mormon :God of the Living Dead) HELLO!) this is a door to step into the occult and is very dangerous. I have an aunt, i wont go into much detail, but her husband died and she began to look into tarrot cards and ouiza boards and stuff needless to say nothing good came out of it only pure evil. no further detail. We must acknowledge a "ghost" or whatever you wanna cal it. for what it is. Either a mental brain fart or a demonic opression. This is just my take on this particular subject.
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Ghosts
Feb 2, 2005 15:10:14 GMT -5
Post by Steven Lareau on Feb 2, 2005 15:10:14 GMT -5
When I'm a ghost, I'm going to pull the pants down on old people in public. LOL jk. ;D
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Ghosts
Feb 2, 2005 15:17:10 GMT -5
Post by Ryan Thames on Feb 2, 2005 15:17:10 GMT -5
You need therapy Steven.
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Ghosts
Feb 2, 2005 15:24:58 GMT -5
Post by simon on Feb 2, 2005 15:24:58 GMT -5
Too funny Steven...... ;D but do you really think old people care if their pants are down in public?
Quick joke, a 90 year women is crossing the street during heavy winds, as she steps out from the safety of the buildings the wind starts to take her hat, she promptly puts both hands on her head to hold her hat on, however the wind in turn lifts the old woman’s dress up exposing here naked lower body, she sees this but continues to hold onto her hat, the town preacher walking down the upcoming street yells out to her, “for gods sake Mrs. Jenkins cover yourself!” the old woman replies “that down there is 90 years old…..the hats brand new!”
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Ghosts
Feb 2, 2005 15:26:02 GMT -5
Post by Ryan Thames on Feb 2, 2005 15:26:02 GMT -5
ANOTHER LOAD OF GARBAGE
ANGELS
According to the bible man and angels were created seperatly. they are different species.
When a man dies he does not become and angel!
We do not become angels without wings and hope to come to earth to do good things to get wings.
ALSO The fact that angels are created beings and that the bible says Jesus was before the creation and that God is the creator and Jesus is God. Lucifer and Jesus are not brothers!
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Ghosts
Feb 2, 2005 15:27:23 GMT -5
Post by Ryan Thames on Feb 2, 2005 15:27:23 GMT -5
thats funny simon i heard that one before along time ago
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Ghosts
Feb 2, 2005 15:28:08 GMT -5
Post by simon on Feb 2, 2005 15:28:08 GMT -5
Christian that is the point, we are culture filled with silly beliefs, you can find a ton of books on the paranormal and have infinite arguments about their existence, but where are the answers to the common sense questions?
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Ghosts
Feb 2, 2005 15:30:45 GMT -5
Post by Ryan Thames on Feb 2, 2005 15:30:45 GMT -5
In the bible ;D
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Ghosts
Feb 2, 2005 15:30:50 GMT -5
Post by simon on Feb 2, 2005 15:30:50 GMT -5
Yeah it is an old joke but one that always strikes me as funny, because it speaks to morals and the perceptions of right and wrong, what is important to one may not be important to another.
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Ghosts
Feb 2, 2005 15:39:24 GMT -5
Post by simon on Feb 2, 2005 15:39:24 GMT -5
Let’s try just one and see if your bible can answer it with any semblance of viability.
Why does god allow innocent children to be killed by known, (at least to him) murdering, molesting, psychopaths, and then allow said psychopath entrance into heaven after he has repented in prison?
How could a just god allow such a thing?
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Ghosts
Feb 2, 2005 15:42:19 GMT -5
Post by simon on Feb 2, 2005 15:42:19 GMT -5
Good point Tony,
Why does the Loch Ness Monster not just get seen sunning itself on the top of the water in broad daylight? It is a very common activity for water based reptiles and by all accounts it is hard to believe it is intelligent enough to knowingly hide from human sight.
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Ghosts
Feb 2, 2005 15:47:40 GMT -5
Post by josephsirois on Feb 2, 2005 15:47:40 GMT -5
Better question might be, Simon, if God was an omnipotent force, henseforth he would know beforehand when someone would die. It wouldn't just be a matter of him preventing it, but also a matter of him putting those events in motion. Better than that, if God was an all-knowing force, he would know in advance if the person he was creating or not was going to hell. In effect God is creating people KNOWING they are going to hell, and please nobody try to sell me on "free will", either God knows everything or he doesn't, it completely contradicts any preconcieved knowledge by a higher being.
Divine Plan/Free Will... you can't have it both ways. Duality at its best/worst?
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