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Ghosts
Feb 2, 2005 16:11:46 GMT -5
Post by Ryan Thames on Feb 2, 2005 16:11:46 GMT -5
Were learning about Calvinism and "Predestination" in school this week.
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Ghosts
Feb 2, 2005 16:12:29 GMT -5
Post by Ryan Thames on Feb 2, 2005 16:12:29 GMT -5
That is too funny steven ;D
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Ghosts
Feb 2, 2005 16:13:48 GMT -5
Post by josephsirois on Feb 2, 2005 16:13:48 GMT -5
So what is the answer to the million dollar question? Does God know beforehand that the people he creates are going to hell before he even creates them?
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Ghosts
Feb 2, 2005 16:15:01 GMT -5
Post by Steven Lareau on Feb 2, 2005 16:15:01 GMT -5
It is our sin that Crucified Christ. We in our sin are guilty of the murder of the Son of God.. is that not disgusting? Ryan, you're right, that is disgusting. The Passion of the Christ had a lot of blood........that was disgusting too.
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Ghosts
Feb 2, 2005 16:17:44 GMT -5
Post by Steven Lareau on Feb 2, 2005 16:17:44 GMT -5
So what is the answer to the million dollar question? Does God know beforehand that the people he creates are going to hell before he even creates them? I think he already answered this. And I think it was "yes" because they choose to.
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Ghosts
Feb 2, 2005 16:20:52 GMT -5
Post by josephsirois on Feb 2, 2005 16:20:52 GMT -5
Dude, I so totally give up...
God so hates me, lol
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Ghosts
Feb 2, 2005 16:22:28 GMT -5
Post by Ryan Thames on Feb 2, 2005 16:22:28 GMT -5
Joseph i said yes he knows who is going to hell and who isnt. But he doesnt create them that way.
Put it this way everyone who is born is born in sin as a result of sin. As a result of sin we die. Becuase of sin we can not go to heaven Why? Heaven was not created for man. hell was not created for man either. but hell is there for what is not holy such as satan and his followers. and becuase we are not holy and and unholiness cannot get to heaven EVERYONE must go to hell. EXCEPT they recieve the blood of Christ as a sacrifice for their own sin and in Christ we are made holy in the sight of God becuase God poured out his JUDGEMENT on christ in OUR place. when we are made holy in the eyes of God through Christ this now gives a way to enter heaven.
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Ghosts
Feb 2, 2005 16:23:06 GMT -5
Post by Scott Latella on Feb 2, 2005 16:23:06 GMT -5
I see Bigfoot hitch-hiking from time to time in Vermont. He seems like a nice fellow. That was just my big boy Johnny after a hard days work..
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Ghosts
Feb 2, 2005 16:34:25 GMT -5
Post by simon on Feb 2, 2005 16:34:25 GMT -5
So what did all of the Popes do wrong to get their tickets punched? I am pretty sure that in the version of Christianity you follow you will find many people that appear to be without sin on earth that died at a very young age, if death is result of sin, why do innocent babies die, they could not have sinned in their short life span?
No Ryan to be honest your explanation is not very viable, or if it is please consider me as one not interested in that plan.
I am sure I do not have to ask what any of us would do if something criminal happened to one of our children, no power anywhere in the world would stop me from destroying everything associated with the transgression against my child.
"If god himself will not atone to me for his actions against mine, I will seek out the darkest of evils to reign chaos against those responsible for the destruction of innocence."
Or the less dramatic
“If you will not help me now, then I say F@$& you Joboo! I will do it myself.”
Now back to the ghost stories.
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Ghosts
Feb 2, 2005 16:46:34 GMT -5
Post by Ryan Thames on Feb 2, 2005 16:46:34 GMT -5
"So what did all of the Popes do wrong to get their tickets punched? I am pretty sure that in the version of Christianity you follow you will find many people that appear to be without sin on earth that died at a very young age, if death is result of sin, why do innocent babies die, they could not have sinned in their short life span?"
The bible says ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
The pope and any other man you can find none are sinless.
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Ghosts
Feb 2, 2005 17:00:31 GMT -5
Post by Steven Lareau on Feb 2, 2005 17:00:31 GMT -5
Wasn't the virgin mary without sin? Didn't she die?
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Feb 2, 2005 17:02:17 GMT -5
Post by gambit on Feb 2, 2005 17:02:17 GMT -5
When I'm a ghost, I'm going to pull the pants down on old people in public. LOL jk. ;D followed by: You need therapy Steven. I completely agree with Ryan. You're not right in the head Steven. ________________________________ Too funny Steven...... ;D but do you really think old people care if their pants are down in public? No, but I sure do care about old people having their pants down in public !! This thread is going to top them all !!
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Feb 2, 2005 17:11:30 GMT -5
Post by Ryan Thames on Feb 2, 2005 17:11:30 GMT -5
Steven Mary was not without sin. If she were she would not have died. Jesus was without sin though he laid down his life. and gave up his spirit. John 10:17. Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. 18. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. And becuase he had no sin death couldnt hold him. this is why he was able to be ressurected. And still lives. Or he couldve chose to live here and rule the earth as it is. With out dying on the cross. but noone would ever be saved from hell. He rescued us. He couldve chose not to and just ruled but everyone around him would die forever and all these people would go to hell. He willingliy gave his life for us he saved us. PRAISE GOD!!! Problem is with such a selfless act and we spit in his face? Simon asks why would a God let a child die. I ask why would a man spit in the face of a God who made such a selfless sacrifice. Without this sacrifice NOONE would go to heaven. And everyone would die and go to hell. (this is not implying that simon spits in the face of God, i dont want that to come the wrong way)
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Feb 2, 2005 17:21:46 GMT -5
Post by josephsirois on Feb 2, 2005 17:21:46 GMT -5
Maybe they don't believe in Jesus or the Bible, or having beliefs forced upon them. That's more than enough to piss some people off whose religion is tens of thousands of years old.
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Feb 2, 2005 17:31:06 GMT -5
Post by Ryan Thames on Feb 2, 2005 17:31:06 GMT -5
Joseph ,
what are you talking about?
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