Post by enginterzi on Sept 20, 2010 6:03:00 GMT -5
Engin:
1st: How are you doing? And I hope your son is doing well.
2nd: Do you know or have you ever heard of these terms: GHAZVAS, RABAT AND RAZZIA?
hi Christian,
i am doing fine,thank you.i hope you and your family doing good as well.
i do not know what GHAZVAS (maybe in English meaning) means but Gaza means Jihad.after searching on google i found this paranoid article about the terms that you asked me;
Upon further inspection from the experts, the proposed Ground Zero Super Victory Mosque and Cultural Center, schedueled to begin construction September 11th, 2011, is not a mosque at all. The New York Post's own Amir Taheri has written to explain the cultural and historical background of the building project proposed:
"In Islam, every structure linked to the faith and its rituals has a precise function and character. A mosque is a one-story gallery built around an atrium with a mihrab (a niche pointing to Mecca) and one, or in the case of Shiites two, minarets.
Other Islamic structures, such as harams, zawiyyahs, husseinyiahs and takiyahs, also obey strict architectural rules. Yet the building used for spreading the faith is known as Dar al-Tabligh, or House of Proselytizing. This 13-story multifunctional structure couldn’t be any of the above.
In fact, the proposed structure is known in Islamic history as a rabat -- literally a connector. The first rabat appeared at the time of the Prophet.
The Prophet imposed his rule on parts of Arabia through a series of ghazvas, or razzias (the origin of the English word "raid"). The ghazva was designed to terrorize the infidels, convince them that their civilization was doomed and force them to submit to Islamic rule. Those who participated in the ghazva were known as the ghazis, or raiders.
After each ghazva, the Prophet ordered the creation of a rabat -- or a point of contact at the heart of the infidel territory raided. The rabat consisted of an area for prayer, a section for the raiders to eat and rest and facilities to train and prepare for future razzias. Later Muslim rulers used the tactic of ghazva to conquer territory in the Persian and Byzantine empires. After each raid, they built a rabat to prepare for the next razzia.
It is no coincidence that Islamists routinely use the term ghazva to describe the 9/11 attacks against New York and Washington. The terrorists who carried out the attack are referred to as ghazis or shahids (martyrs). Thus, building a rabat close to Ground Zero would be in accordance with a tradition started by the Prophet. To all those who believe and hope that the 9/11 ghazva would lead to the destruction of the American "Great Satan," this would be of great symbolic value."
what is written above is the most paranoid thing i have ever heard.i mean one does not need to be the smartest person alive to see this.
WTC was not an independant country, it was part of Manhattan,NY,USA.there are already Mosques in Manhattan,in NY,in USA (including one that is 3,5 blocks away from ground zero).were the Muslims in earlier centuries building Mosques to places before they conquered a city,as well?were the early Muslims only ones who conquered another place? or did Christians also conquered places and built Churches as well?i am worried about the applied pressure on the minds of Americans.IMO the Mosque should be built somewhere else,because more they dig more they create anti-Islamic propagandas.i am curious about the relationship between those people who try to build Mosque over there and officials who support them.as i am also curious about the relationship between Bush and Laden families.
Ghazi does not mean attacker but anyone who has been the part of the war.Turkish soldiers who have fought against pkk terrorists are also called Ghazis.Turkish soldiers who fought against N.Koreans,as a allies of US,have also been called Ghazis.i just asked to my friend Omer who is an expert about Islam and it's history about this matter.he said he has never heard such thing which is to build something after attacking somewhere.
also did the attackers of 9-11 conquer Manhattan,NY,USA? or had any intention or power to conquer US (since its believed that it was committed by the extremists) ?
are all these paranoias the result of the fear of what have been happenning in Iraq and Afghanistan?i would like to hear one source other than a political propaganda,about this kind of tradition is being part of Islam (building a Mosque to get prepared for the next fight).are they planning another inside job to make believe public it's reality? if so they better do a better job this time.or they need more public support for the so-called crusade that Bush mentioned?
the Mosques that were built before 9-11 was the preparation for 9-11 ?! if not,then what do they mean? did Islamic conquered places in the history,have Muslim population who were freely excercising their religion including having Mosques (same as in USA)?
i am amazed by the scenarios that have been written to cause anti-Islamic feelings,but i am not so surprised since there are such things called Holywood & media which are owned by the "none politic" people.more i answer more i realize how cheap this propaganda is.
i do not know from where they create such ideas but as a 35 years of Muslim i have never heard such thing.anyone who is believing in such propagandas must be keeping Islam responsible for 9-11.i am not going to go into arguments but i can say that i do not believe that 9-11 happenned without any inside involvement.i mean even if i would force myself to believe that it happenned without an inside involvement i still can not believe because there are way too many none sense things about it,including it's future results.