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Post by Harold "Rattlesnake" Ryden on Apr 30, 2006 23:05:33 GMT -5
Posted by Karen Bean on Today at 6:08pm
There are very loving couples out there who cant have children of their own who would take in a child in a heart beat. Its called adoption...
Lets not make excuses............Seriously Karen, what would you expect Jesus to reply to you...........seriously?? Think about it and give me your God honest answer. How "extreme" would Jesus take it??
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Post by Ryan Thames on Apr 30, 2006 23:11:21 GMT -5
are you God to make the decisions of who lives and dies? What gives any woman any right to kill their babies? these babies have human rights.
YOU are the one not reading correctly.
the sucking of brains and sticking of needles is a description of the procedures used to abort these babies.
did you click the link? i try not to
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Post by Karen Bean on Apr 30, 2006 23:20:25 GMT -5
Posted by Karen Bean on Today at 6:08pm There are very loving couples out there who cant have children of their own who would take in a child in a heart beat. Its called adoption... Lets not make excuses............Seriously Karen, what would you expect Jesus to reply to you...........seriously?? Think about it and give me your God honest answer. How "extreme" would Jesus take it?? Harold, remember we are talking about a child here - not an adult that made a choice to have unprotected sex - a child! I don't believe that Jesus, first of all would condone the abuse of an innocent child. Second of all I don't believe that Jesus would want to further that innocent child's abuse and agony by having her carry a child for 9 months. Third, I don't believe that Jesus would want to further that innocent child's agony by having her go through the entire ordeal of labor and delivery. We are talking about a child! There are young girls that are fully capable of getting pregnant at the age of 8, 9 and 10 years old. You have a daughter Harold and she's how old now? You tell me, would you honestly put your daughter through it? At 8 or 9 or 10 years old? Would you make her carry a baby to term, deliver it, and put it up for adoption? I honestly believe that Jesus would expect us, as mature, intelligent adults, to do what is best for our child. This would be no different than a woman having an abortion in order to save her life. You would be saving a child's life!
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Post by Karen Bean on Apr 30, 2006 23:24:15 GMT -5
are you God to make the decisions of who lives and dies? What gives any woman any right to kill there babies? these babies have human rights. YOU are the one not reading correctly. the sucking of braing and sticking of needles is a descrition of the procedures used to aabort these babies. did you click the link? i try not to Ryan - go back and read and you will find QUESTIONS. Try answering them! How about starting with the one asking you what it is that I got that I deserved.
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Post by Ryan Thames on May 1, 2006 5:42:43 GMT -5
when i said you got whats coming to you. it a generic statement not direct at you specifically........ READ!!! CORRECTLY!!
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Post by Chris Gangi on May 1, 2006 6:46:16 GMT -5
OK....another example lets say your 12 year daughter is raped and becomes pregnant.....
now what do you do? let her have a baby at 12....
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Post by Harold "Rattlesnake" Ryden on May 1, 2006 6:53:42 GMT -5
I see your point and agree with you, Jesus would not want a child to go through that. I think your missing my point. The child in the womb... Thats what we are talking about here. He cares for that child as well as the 8, 9, or 10 year old little girl. Yes Karen I would save my childs life...................as well as the one she is carrying............. If her life was in danger, I would make that decision accordingly. Nice chattin..... I jumping off this soapbox.
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Post by Karen Bean on May 1, 2006 7:00:57 GMT -5
when i said you got whats coming to you. it a generic statement not direct at you specifically........ READ!!! CORRECTLY!! Word for word Ryan you said "If your so bent on killing that baby you got whats coming to you." This is your response to I grew up in the days of illegal abortions. I have seen the results of what back street butchers have done to young women. Do you have any idea how many women died? Do you have any idea how many women were mutilated? And, do you have any idea how many women will seek illegal abortions and how many butchers will surface if abortion is abolished? Can you please explain how those questions warranted your response?
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Post by TK on May 1, 2006 11:16:15 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]Would you rather her murder the baby of the rapist?[/glow] this is what really gets on my friggin' nerves A$$holes who think they are God themselves...if you would have read the book you're praising so much you'd see on there that GOD almighty will judge these people when they pass on....it's none of your friggin business if someone wants to abort a child that they know will not live right in this world it's their business with God not yours... If a women is raped...and then gets pregnant from this rapist....don't you think it takes a[glow=red,2,300] nutball[/glow] to commit rape?...you want this baby's gene pool to consist of this creep....hell no. you keep reading your book...maybe you'll create another reason to get in someone's business.... I've found my answer...Ryan you may be God!! I am for Abortion...with set rules....incestual rape & rape of any kind. and possible funation....it's a tough life for a child to have to go through it with this. I would like to pass a law myself......that Jesus Freaks should only take on Satanic Cults as a friggin hobby. Jesus vs Satan law # 60606 ;D TK
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Post by Niklas Straub on May 1, 2006 14:20:03 GMT -5
I am just curious how law works in the U.S. If there was an abortion ban passed in S.D. does that set a precedent for other states??
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Post by CHARLES WARMACK on May 1, 2006 16:37:51 GMT -5
I think Todd is trying to say is that trying to force your beliefs on someone and then denouncing them when they don't agree with you is wrong. Todd??
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Post by CHARLES WARMACK on May 1, 2006 16:41:59 GMT -5
DISCLAIMER: The above mentioned post is not directed at any individual/individuals, nor does it imply that I agree or disagree with any of the statements previously posted, it was simply an observation posted to clarify what someone was trying to say.
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Post by Harold "Rattlesnake" Ryden on May 1, 2006 17:07:11 GMT -5
These are my beliefs...................I am not "forcing" them on anybody!! I have a right, just as you do, to speak your mind and your beliefs. Just as you stated your new law 60606.
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Post by Ryan Thames on May 1, 2006 17:52:35 GMT -5
Karen, again.....i......will......explain.....this......a....little.....sslower the......comment......was.....not.....directed......at......you.........specifically...... when.....i .....said ......"you"........it was a generic.......meaning.....it is meant.........for any....who....apply ......to......the......situation...... Todd, Did Osama have the right to blow up those towers? Should we let that go unpunished, because "god will judge them" wait, you said God will judge!!!
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Post by Ryan Thames on May 1, 2006 17:55:16 GMT -5
Todd. If you walked up on that 9 yr old girl being raped.....would you say that you have no right to stop it? Would you say its none of your business? Wouldnt that girl want you to try to do something? These babies cry out from womb asking for ssomeone to save their lives and you do nothing? The bible that you qouted declares that life begins at conception. so does science......thus making this a human being no different than the 9 yr old girl. If we murdered babies because of mental funation a few of my friends, close frineds would be murdered......do you have any friends or children that you wouldve rathered be killed? There is a man on this board, a highly respected armwrestler and "philosopher" i wonder if he has read all this. A man who has a son slightly incapable of what you require for a child to live. I have a friend, he fully capable of living life independantly, he is autistic, but he is so stinking smart he would blow your minds with the random stuff he knows. he has an accounting degree yet works as a shft manager at mcdonalds. You cant tell me, that you would murder a baby because of the possibility he would be funed or autistic or many other mental deformity. Do you also believe that a man or womaan who has alzheimers should be put to death? Do you believe that a man or woman who barely survives an anurizm should be put to death? Or how about a grandfather who barly survives a stroke and is left slightly braindamaged? Or your grandmother who cant take care of herself but isnt quite bad enough to go to an oldfolks home? for your sakes i hope your children dont believe the way you do. as far as jesus freaks only taking on satanic cults..........thats exactly what we are doing and have been doing for over 2000yrs. We dont "go after" anyone else
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