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Post by Mat Helmer on Jul 16, 2007 18:45:20 GMT -5
If you choose to not have sex with men, you would only have to fight those that choose to try to force themselves on you. You only have to kill to protect yourself and usually you are a "Lifer" and have nothing to lose, but if you only in for a stint then you do what you have to til you get out. You just flamed my post, then agreed with what I had stated.
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Post by Pete & Tim on Jul 16, 2007 21:17:40 GMT -5
"You do what you have to til you get out" did not mean be gay.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jul 16, 2007 22:00:28 GMT -5
Not what he meant at all I don't think Pete. Hanging Gays is WRONG. For murdering someone is a sin. What exactly are you wanting to know again cause you didn't make it really clear.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jul 16, 2007 22:04:54 GMT -5
Oh an by the Way Pete my tendon is still sore. Im trying to do the exercises you told me but it still acts up. You think it could be tendonitis?
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Post by Bob Paradis on Jul 16, 2007 22:25:35 GMT -5
Justin,
My children telling me that they are attracted to the same sex does not magically make anything OK. Being attracted to the same sex is not a sin. How my daughters behave with regards to the entirety of their sexuality has nothing to do with me. I pass on what the Church teaches, then they make their own decisions. Everyone has issues with their sexuality. Human sexuality is one of the most difficult issues that people have to grapple with for a large part of their lives. Let's not try to simplify it. Homosexuality is one issue out of many in the realm of our sexuality. And for the record, it is not fair that out of all the issues that we have with our own personal sex issues, that the issue of same sex attraction is the one that everyone seems to jump on. I hereby publicly admit that I do not have all the answers and that I still grapple with issues of purity at the age of 46. We are all sinners. Let's love each other and let the light of God shine through to all we meet.
We share exercises for arm wrestling. Let me share one with you for charity. Every time you drive your car somewhere, be courteous and gracious in your heart toward the slob that does something inconsiderate to you. Realize how miserable that person has to be in life. Thank God that you aren't a miserable slob. You'll find yourself feeling sorry for those people over time, instead of wanting to run them off the road. I had pretty serious road rage when I was 18 or so. I know what it feels like to be the miserable slob. There probably were other drivers praying for me when I was young and selfish. Take care,
Bob
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Post by Pete & Tim on Jul 16, 2007 22:30:41 GMT -5
Well lets see what the "Book" says about racist and bigot.
Racist-a person with a prejudiced belief.
Bigot-a prejudiced person who is intolerent of any opinions differing from their own.
Now, I believe the guy that wrote this and there is only one version of his book. His name is Webster, I think you all might have heard of him.
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Post by Pete & Tim on Jul 16, 2007 22:31:56 GMT -5
Oh an by the Way Pete my tendon is still sore. Im trying to do the exercises you told me but it still acts up. You think it could be tendonitis? I'm not a doctor, go and pray and maybe that will work. ;D
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Post by Justin Kaufman on Jul 16, 2007 23:15:33 GMT -5
Bob. you are a very smart guy and seem to be nice also. So, not to try to spin your words but are you saying that being attracted to the same sex is or isn't a sin? or is it the act that makes it a sin? Thank you also for your words. Pete, that last post is funny!!!!! lmao!!!
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jul 17, 2007 14:21:30 GMT -5
Not sure he grants prayers for little annoying pains an he didn't give us minds to be stupid an ignorant
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Post by Bob Paradis on Jul 17, 2007 16:07:48 GMT -5
Bob. you are a very smart guy and seem to be nice also. So, not to try to spin your words but are you saying that being attracted to the same sex is or isn't a sin? or is it the act that makes it a sin? Thank you also for your words. Pete, that last post is funny!!!!! lmao!!! Justin, Being attracted to the same sex is not a sin. Two men hugging or kissing each other like in other cultures is not a sin. Two men loving each other and living together is not a sin. Any sexual intercourse outside of a sacramental marriage would be considered a sin...heterosexual or homosexual. Thanks for the compliment. Bob
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Post by Pete & Tim on Jul 17, 2007 16:52:37 GMT -5
Not sure he grants prayers for little annoying pains an he didn't give us minds to be stupid an ignorant Didn't he give us "Free Will"?
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Post by Pete & Tim on Jul 17, 2007 16:53:48 GMT -5
Pete, that last post is funny!!!!! lmao!!! Thank You, Thank You. I'll be here all week!!!!!!
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jul 17, 2007 22:53:51 GMT -5
Being Gay is a sin. Being attracted to a man like you would be to a woman or a woman being attracted to a woman like she is supposed to be to a man is wrong an sinful. Loving someone of the same sex isn't sin long as it's a brotherly love but a sexual lust/love is nasty an sinful.
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Post by Bob Paradis on Jul 18, 2007 14:26:12 GMT -5
Being Gay is a sin. Being attracted to a man like you would be to a woman or a woman being attracted to a woman like she is supposed to be to a man is wrong an sinful. Loving someone of the same sex isn't sin long as it's a brotherly love but a sexual lust/love is nasty an sinful. There is a difference between lusting after someone and being attracted to someone. Think clearly, not quickly. Being attracted to someone is never a sin.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jul 18, 2007 14:39:04 GMT -5
When your attracted to them sexually it's a sin. I didn't say if you thought they were handsome,cute,pretty,etc...... But if you are attracted sexually then yes. Even if you think about them sexually it's a sin. Even Jesus said that. Thinking sexually about someone IS lust.
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