The Greatest Armwrestlers in History

[tomaszwisniowski]

WHO IS A LEGEND IN ARMWRESTLING?


The list of the names whom I have already OPINION :

- John Brzenk,
- Travis Bagent,
- Engin Terzi,
- Arsen Liliev,
- Ron & Cindy Bath,
- Cleve Dean,
- Ferit Osmanl (Usmanov)
- Bill Collins
- Bob Paradis
- Marcio Barboza,
- Gary Goodridge,
- Irina Makeeva,
- Kurt Howgate,
- Michael Todd,
- Sharon Remez,
- Don Underwood,
- Jerry Cadorrete,
- Devon Larratt,
- Christian Binnie,
- Pascal Girard,
- Eric Roussin,
- Kurt Niyazi,
- Neil Pickup,


The list of the names whom I already asked for an OPINION, nad still waiting for answer:

- Rustam Babayev, UKR
- Cobra Rhodes, USA
- Allen Fisher, USA
- Mike Gould, CAN
- Janis Amolins, LAT
- David Randall, USA
- Lubomir Jagnesak, SVK
- Ion Oncescu, ROM
- Eric Woelfel, USA
- Igor Mazurenko, POL


This is a list of the names with whom I am unable to contact:
Guys HELP me please !!!
my e-mail: [e-mail]

- Cvetan Gashevski, BUL
- Richard Lupkes, USA
- Dave Patton, USA
- Johnny Walker USA
- Kazbek Zoleav RUS
- Lorenzo Villar ESP
- Andreas Rundstrom SWE
- Alexey Voevoda RUS
- Kevin Bongard USA
- Jan Germanus SLV
- Taras Ivakin UKR
- Dave Hicks, CAN
- Bruce Way, USA
- Crazy George, CAN

[Jimmy Van Orden]

A "legend" in arm wrestling is someone who has competed and won in major, sanctioned matches over a long period of time. There are only three men in the sport who I believe have met these qualifications: John Bzrenk, Allen Fisher and Steve Stanaway. Each of these men has been in the sport for at least 25 years and has won major, sanctioned arm wrestling contests during that time period. If you examine their records, you will find that Stanaway has met the criteria for the longest period: 1968-2010. JMHO. Jimmyvan

[tomaszwisniowski]

Jimmy could you send me some contact (e-mail or phone ) to Steve Stanaway
I would like to ask Him about his opinion too

WHO IS A LEGEND IN ARMWRESTLING?

Thank You

[enginterzi]

Aug 25, 2010 9:12:37 GMT -5 Karen Bean said:

Also sad to see the amount of armwrestlers from the "good ole days" that aren't listed due to the majority of people not being around then. Way too much emphasis being placed on "world titles", IMO. Too many GREATS around before world even started, not to mention that for many, many years, the world event was only attended by a very small handful of countries and competitors.

Just a thought................Baseball Hall of Fame ~ 289 inductees (202 players) ~ 73 years of inducting ~~~~~~~~~

The listings here for armwrestlers is too long. The list should start with the first competitors from years ago. Then, move forward. IMO

Aug 23, 2010 20:22:11 GMT -5 @enginterzi said:

seriously if we start listing greats then there are more than 50 pullers in that category.


Guy Lasorsa,Dave Hicks,Michael Selerais,Chad Silvers ... i mean if i seriously think about it then i could list 100 pullers from different categories.i believe that "GREATS" and "LEGENDS" can be categorised even by weight classes such as light weight-middle weight and heavyweight.

anyone who has been one of the best deserves to be called amongst "GREAT".


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i agree that the GREATS list should be much more than what is mentioned.i think instead of 50 greats there should be an unlimited "HALL OF FAME" list.forcing the list with 50 names is unfair to other greats.i sure know that there has been more than 50 great names.



about the World titles... football was played first in England but none of British teams claimed to have World titles.World Cup started with 1930 when the other countries participated to have chance to win.

armwrestling is a very old sport and has been performed all over the world for centuries.there has been competetions as well but they did not give world titles away.

one can believe in winning world titles by beating the people around him but is that title recognised by the "WORLD" that we discuss about.


until the sport is established in other countries and an internationally recognised federation organizes a World Championships,the world titles will not be recognised by the majority of the world.

you can say "it was not their fault that there was no WAF around" then someone else may say "it was not the fault of many who had iron wrists in the history if there was no World championships around". if there was no organised World Championships which was recognised by the World then there was no world title except self given ones.


say that they were the best ones in USA,you may think that they were the best ones in the world as well but how can you give world titles by opinions when other countries had no idea about these events.


wrestling has been a sport in my country for centuries and it is an organised sport for centuries.this championships was held in my country for every year since 1346;


kirkpinar.org/en/kirkpinar


but i have never heard of the winners being declared as the World Champion,not in the past not today.

[enginterzi]

Yukon Jacks,Over the Top etc were international event but you pull the same guys to win national title then you pull the same guys the win world title.what is the difference? the name that you create for your event? could World titles be given only in USA before the international events started or the other countries had chance to give world titles by beating their countryman,as well? i know that in my country there had been tournaments in 1970s so they were not world titles because they did not extreme by calling them world championships?

come on guys,i know this is an American board and people dont like these opinions but there is a HUGE world outside of US borders.it is always healthier to have objective opinion.it has nothing to do with US,pullers such as John,Ron,Cleve,Cobra,Patton an some others are the American pullers who are accepted as Legends all around the world.you are using the title "WORLD" and you should look for recognition by the "WORLD".



no doubt there was GREAT US pullers before our times but i seriously believe that there were some incredibly strong armrestlers all around the world.how great they were became known when the wold level competetions started.


i just talked with Niyazi Kurt who is 2 x WAF and 2 x EAF champion.he said in 1970s there has been held a big championships in Turkey every year and there were very strong armwrestlers.one of them is now about 60 years old and still pulls in disabled class in WAF and EAF.he has way too many WAF and EAF titles to remember in Masters and Disabled classes.i just can not imagine how strong he was 35-40 years ago when there was no WAF championships around.he is 60 years old and still can do 1 arm pull ups weighing near 80kg.he has placed 4. place in WAF senior class as well.ask Alper how strong Nurettin Yuksel is even as an old man.


i tell you one more story,it was 1998 Turkish nationals and we saw an old man who was about 60 years old.he gave trouble to Niyazi Kurt who won the WAF 2 months later in Egypt over Kote (Voevoda's trainer),Zoloev Kazbek and many other greats. Alper Cosar took 6. in same WAF class.Alper will know better but what i remember is Alper hardly beat this old man at the nationals.i believe this old man was much stronger when he was younger.my point is that those old US greats were not the only greats in the world in their times.

[tomaszwisniowski]

Karen
this is the beginning
WHEN WE FINISH PULLERS

then:
Great personality:

- REFEERES,
- The organizers of tournaments,
- Activists

BIG tournaments from the past

and more, more..........................

but first I want to finish this subject with your help


Karen - I will ask them ( 5 )about women whom I sould ask about opinion.



5o - this was idea on the begining and no longer exists.
Let everyone forget about this idea


GUYS
LEAVE MORE THE INFORATIONS ABOUT THESE GREATS PULLERS PLEASE

THANK YOU

[enginterzi]

Aug 25, 2010 10:44:52 GMT -5 @enginterzi said:

no doubt there was GREAT US pullers before our times but i seriously believe that there were some incredibly strong armrestlers all around the world.how great they were became known when the wold level competetions started.


i just talked with Niyazi Kurt who is 2 x WAF and 2 x EAF champion.he said in 1970s there has been held a big championships in Turkey every year and there were very strong armwrestlers.one of them is now about 60 years old and still pulls in disabled class in WAF and EAF.he has way too many WAF and EAF titles to remember in Masters and Disabled classes.i just can not imagine how strong he was 35-40 years ago when there was no WAF championships around.he is 60 years old and still can do 1 arm pull ups weighing near 80kg.he has placed 4. place in WAF senior class as well.ask Alper how strong Nurettin Yuksel is even as an old man.

he was over 50 years old and beat Craig Tullier lefty in 2001 WAF;

Men's Left Hand 70kg
1st - Engin Terzi, Turkey
2nd - Borysenko Bogdan, Ukraine
3rd - Eli De Brito, Brazil
4th - Babayev Rustam, Ukraine
5th - Craig Tullier, USA
6th - Nurettin Yuksel, Turkey



i was there and neither of them had hard matches.Craig beat Nuretting by a slip call.for 5. - 6. match Nurettin slipped and in strap he easily won the match against Craig.

Craig's right was his better arm but his left was very good as well ,enough to win nats in 2005;


Men’s Left 166-176:
1-Craig Tullier
2-Chris Chandler
3-Ron Klemba
4-John Parton
5-Tony Kitowski
6-Noah Sanders

[enginterzi]

Aug 25, 2010 11:12:24 GMT -5 @enginterzi said:

i was there and neither of them had hard matches.Craig beat Nuretting by a slip call.for 5. - 6. match Nurettin slipped and in strap he easily won the match against Craig.

i wrote wrong (fasting 16 hours a day with no liquid or food)

first Nurettin beat Craig in strap easily.then Craig beat Nurettin for 5.-6. place match by not allowing Nurettin to slip for strap.i have videos of both matches.

[tomaszwisniowski]

I THING THIS IS A MOMENT AND PLEACE WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE GREATS

PLEASE AMERICA TELL EUROPE AND WORLD ABOUT YOUR GREAT PULLERS AND VICE VERSA

[enginterzi]

Chad Silvers

Michael Selerais

Steve Stanaway

Al Turner

John Brzenk

Ron Bath

Richard Lupkes

Allen Fisher

Dave Patton

Ray Patton

George Givens

Guy Lasorsa

Jason Vale

Bill Sinks

Eric Woefel

Jerry Cadorette

Norm Devio

Gabe Accardi

Craig Tullier

RJ Molineire

Travis Bagent

Cleve Dean

Cobra Rhodes

Bert Whitfield

Ray Taglione

Bob Hopkings

Fred Decker

Joe Fitzimmons

Jim Fitzimmons

James Battles

Sam Battles

Jim Northern

Johnny Walker

John Buonanato

Frank Bean

Steve Austin

Dan Mason

Leslie Whims

Robert Redden

Jerry Jannings

[enginterzi]

Gregg Bernards

David Randall

Arthur Drewes

Wayne Burns

Virgil Archerio

[enginterzi]

Christian Binnie

Jason Remer

Bill Ballinger

[enginterzi]

Bill Brzenk

Kevin Bongard

Bruce Way

Bucky Russel

[enginterzi]

Michael Todd

Ray Darling

Todd Hutchings

Matt Girdner

Don Underwood

[tomaszwisniowski]

WHO IS A LEGEND IN ARMWRESTLING?


The list of the names whom I have already OPINION :

- John Brzenk,
- Travis Bagent,
- Engin Terzi,
- Arsen Liliev,
- Ron & Cindy Bath,
- Cleve Dean,
- Ferit Osmanl (Usmanov)
- Bill Collins
- Bob Paradis
- Marcio Barboza,
- Gary Goodridge,
- Irina Makeeva,
- Kurt Howgate,
- Michael Todd,
- Sharon Remez,
- Don Underwood,
- Jerry Cadorrete,
- Devon Larratt,
- Christian Binnie,
- Pascal Girard,
- Eric Roussin,
- Kurt Niyazi,
- Neil Pickup,
- Allen Fisher,


The list of the names whom I already asked for an OPINION, nad still waiting for answer:

- Rustam Babayev, UKR
- Cobra Rhodes, USA
- Mike Gould, CAN
- Janis Amolins, LAT
- David Randall, USA
- Lubomir Jagnesak, SVK
- Ion Oncescu, ROM
- Eric Woelfel, USA
- Igor Mazurenko, POL


This is a list of the names with whom I am unable to contact:
Guys HELP me please !!!
my e-mail: [e-mail]

- Cvetan Gashevski, BUL
- Richard Lupkes, USA
- Dave Patton, USA
- Johnny Walker USA
- Kazbek Zoleav RUS
- Lorenzo Villar ESP
- Andreas Rundstrom SWE
- Alexey Voevoda RUS
- Kevin Bongard USA
- Jan Germanus SLV
- Taras Ivakin UKR
- Dave Hicks, CAN
- Bruce Way, USA
- Crazy George, CAN

Thank You