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Post by Jeremy Plaster on Mar 13, 2005 12:20:28 GMT -5
No problem Steve, it was a great question and one that he SHOULD already know the answer to. the fact that he has to go read it again really tells me something about him. When he does find the answer to your question he will either turn a blind eye, or see what a hypocrite he makes himself out to look like.
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Post by gambit on Mar 13, 2005 12:27:15 GMT -5
Allen,  Good point. Thats why he was afraid of saying his name on the radio station for 3 years he was afraid of the repercusions. Im sure he doesnt go around advertizing who he is. They dont have a tracking device planted in the brain thats those other people.  The way I see this, is: 1) You know your instructor's name 2) He is telling you (and the rest of the class) about his past life 3) You are here telling us his past life. I think this IS advertising. Not only is it advertising, but it is advertising to Masons in here that, according to your instructor, will hunt him down and kill him. You are caressingly bringing him to his demise. Ryan, I do not see why my father and father-in-law would suggest their family to join something so satanic. Oh wait! Do you think they were brainwashed to convince their family members so that the Mason's strongholds would be even more controlled?  |
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Post by gambit on Mar 13, 2005 12:33:33 GMT -5
I do want to make it clear I am Ryan's friend. This is why I am saying what I am in hopes that he will learn his errors before he, like Christian said, alienates himself.
Ryan is a good guy. He is passionate about his views. He may go by them the wrong way in saying what he really wants to get across to people, in which I think it is his school that is placing these influencial and false ideas in his head.
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Post by gambit on Mar 13, 2005 12:37:03 GMT -5
Plaster, it will be great to finally get to meet you in person! (I have a feeling we all may get in trouble in LIttle Rock) ;D
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Post by Jeremy Plaster on Mar 13, 2005 13:40:40 GMT -5
Me?? trouble??? nahhh.. lol too bad we wont have bikes there too. haha. I cant wait.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Mar 13, 2005 13:49:44 GMT -5
The things i learn only help encourage me and educate me to express my passion that was in me before i started going there.
Brother its not false information. but ill leave it at that.
The only reason i mentioned my teacher and he is not the only former mason i know is because i was told i should talk to a mason. So i stated i know a few former masons. And they all confirm this is truth.
Steven,
I thought i clarify your question further i apologize if i ddint.
Today we have many religious leaders trying to unite all the religions under one god. Thats cannot and should not happen, but it probably will for the most part. We have people encourage the acceptance of mormons as christians......they are not! We have people encouraging the worship of "Allah" in churchs this should not happen for different reasons. A church teaches that God has a son. This violates the Koran and would be sacreligous of there faith. christians should not worship in a mosque (sp) again because christians teach God has a son and islam teaches he doesnt. This violates the bible. Christians and muslims CAN co-exist but we must understand and identify there is a significant differance between the two.
When a christian evangelist begins preaching there are other ways to heaven outside of christ. He is a heretic of the church. and should no longer be acknowledged as a christian preacher.
When a muslim begins preaching that Christ is the son of God if im not mistaken that would violate there teachings and they should no longer accept him as a muslim.
They can never be united under one religion becuase that would violate both of their scriptures.
It is our job as christians to make sure the difference is known. Regardless of the cost. (alienation)
I do not hate or put down anyone for there beliefs but i just wish and hope that they know where they come from.
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Post by Jeremy Plaster on Mar 13, 2005 13:58:59 GMT -5
Isnt calling someone's religion a "Satanic Cult" kind of putting them down when they are avidly saying that it's untrue? I kind of see that as calling them liars on top of your misinformed opinionated posts against their beliefs. If alienation is a price you're willing to pay, I have a feeling you'll get your chance to pay it. You seem like an alright individual Ryan, it's sad that you arent aware of how to best use your abilities yet. hopefully you will be able to take a look in the mirror before too long. And please dont count me off as a bible basher..I know alot more about what you talk of than you might think. try to listen to what some of the people posting to you are saying. Rather than justifying your insults, listen to what they are saying to you. You still have not answered Steve's question. I'm anxious to hear your reply.
J
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Post by enginterzi on Mar 13, 2005 14:04:29 GMT -5
Today we have many religious leaders trying to unite all the religions under one god. Thats cannot and should not happen, but it probably will for the most part. We have people encourage the acceptance of mormons as christians......they are not! We have people encouraging the worship of "Allah" in churchs this should not happen for different reasons. A church teaches that God has a son. This violates the Koran and would be sacreligous of there faith. christians should not worship in a mosque (sp) again because christians teach God has a son and islam teaches he doesnt. This violates the bible. Christians and muslims CAN co-exist but we must understand and identify there is a significant differance between the two. When a christian evangelist begins preaching there are other ways to heaven outside of christ. He is a heretic of the church. and should no longer be acknowledged as a christian preacher. When a muslim begins preaching that Christ is the son of God if im not mistaken that would violate there teachings and they should no longer accept him as a muslim. They can never be united under one religion becuase that would violate both of their scriptures. . i totally agree with you.we cant unify religions but we all have to learn how to live together with peace.you must follow what you believe,i must follow what i believe and a jew must follow what he-she believes.but we dont need to harm eachother for our believes.and when we all die and the day of judgement comes we all get to know who was following the truth. |
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Post by Paul Maiden on Mar 13, 2005 14:31:13 GMT -5
At the end of the day apart from hindu and budist we all really belive in the same god weather your a muslim catholic jew i really dont give a crap nobody has the right to question any persons beleifs there are many diffrent versions written in all the books its just up 2 you what you follow but at the end of the day weather you beleive jesus was a prophet are the son of god it really doesnt matter we still all beleive in the same god in 1 way or another.people are brought up with relgion usaully if your brought up as a prodestant no dought you will prob beleive in that and so on,it very rare that a person will go out and look at everybodys elses relgion and decide which 1 to follow its usaully decided at birth,i beleive in god and jesus in my own special way i dont go to church are masses even at xmas but if i want to pray god is all around us so it doesnt matter were i do it.just one more thing no matter what relgion colour we all bleed red and no separtions should ever happen because of any of these reasons.
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Post by enginterzi on Mar 13, 2005 14:39:41 GMT -5
well said Mighty.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Mar 13, 2005 14:55:53 GMT -5
weather you beleive jesus was a prophet are the son of god it really doesnt matter we still all beleive in the same god in 1 way or another.. I have to disagree with you there. Muslims dont believe Jesus is the son of God. If you believe Allah has a son then you violates the Koran. Im not sure what the consequences for this are. The bible teaches the only way to the father is through the son Jesus. So then that says the bible teaches if you dont put faith in his son you cant have a relationship with him. This means the bible is calling everything else a liar (is that insuting too). And that it is not the same God. Engin and I believe differently. I totally respect him for his beliefs and why he believes what he believes and i hope the same from him. Everybody is saying that we all worship the same God but that is not what any of our scriptures say whether it be muslim, christian or buddihst. So then if one of them is right then the rest are all wrong. Or they are just all simply wrong. So you either believe in a specific god and a specific plan for salvation or you dont believe in god at all. here is what i would like to say over anything and everything else. Regardless of our differences we need to know what we believe in and why. and do not let anyone manipulate or deviate you from THE truth not YOUR truth. |
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Post by enginterzi on Mar 13, 2005 15:04:25 GMT -5
i agreed with Mighty about we all are human beings and we believe in a CREATOR.personally i only take two other religions then my faith.these are Christianity and Judaism.
i already explain that religions cant be unified,but we have to respect eachother's faith to make the world a peaceful place.
yes Ryan you are very right about the importance of the nature of Jesus Christ.a muslim cant accept Jesus Christ as son of GOD.but its not a reason to harm eachother.we die,and get to know what truth is.there cant be more than one truth.
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Post by Paul Maiden on Mar 13, 2005 15:05:51 GMT -5
I didnt say they did ryan muslim beleive mohamed was a prophet catholic beleive jesus is the son of god,but lets be honest does it really matter, you beleive in what you beleive and otheres beleive what they beleive its simple but at the end of the day theres only one man up stairs who we beleive in,except if your beleifs are diffrent,ie vishnu one of many gods the hindus beleive there is.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Mar 13, 2005 15:19:40 GMT -5
oh i think i misunderstood you.
But yes it does matter which one you believe because according to the christian faith if you dont accept christ as your saviour then you go to hell because you have nothing covering your sin from the presence of god when you die. eternity is of a great importance. the way we enter into is critical and we really need to be sure of what we believe before we die
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Post by enginterzi on Mar 13, 2005 15:22:02 GMT -5
in my faith Christians and Jews can go to heaven too.and a bad moslem can go to hell if he was a bad man or woman.
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