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Post by Paul Maiden on Mar 13, 2005 15:31:26 GMT -5
If you ask for forgiveness on your death bed and repent all your sins then are you not taken to the gates of heaven? also iam hoping iam not separated from any muslim hindu etc, because alot of my friends are these relgions and not to think i would see them because of relgion isnt a good thought,when i work as a bouncer at the weekends i put my faith in 2 muslims a hindu and a catholic and me being well what ever, we watch eachothers backs weve had knife attacks bottles the lot and when the dust settles these people watched my back and me theres i know i ve gone slitly of the point but i guess what iam trying to say is that these are my friends and even if i dont beleive in some of there beleifs i sure hope i see them in the next life. That means you to Engin
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Post by enginterzi on Mar 13, 2005 15:34:59 GMT -5
i hope that almighty GOD will unify our hearts in peace.thx Mighty,i take you as a good friend of mine.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Mar 13, 2005 15:47:27 GMT -5
Religion doesnt have to seperate us in that way. we can still be friends with each other. If anyone tells you that you just cant associate with people outside your religion then becareful of your religion. Christianity not allows me to associate with a muslim but commands me to tell him about jesus. If he accepts or denies it is his decision. I cant force it on him. and i do not try to. I will try to be persistant but ultimatly there is nothing i can do other than present the information. The rest is up to god. But we must be aware that they are different religions and should be respected as such. I can associate with a muslim so long as it doesnt go against the bible. I can eat dinner with him but i cant bow and worship at his alter.
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Post by Bill Maenza on Mar 13, 2005 16:00:21 GMT -5
Ryan, I think part of the problem is not only your <ahem> presentation, but what you site as facts. You presented your *facts* about the Masons and then came back and said you needed to do more research. Here is a free tip: Do your research first before calling someones beliefs Satanic. You'll will save yourself and those around you much grief.
I have been on that end of your posts, so I can empathize with Nicole and Bill C. In a nutshell, follow the old adage of "think before you speak". Also, keep in mind that just because you red it on the Internet, it does not make it a fact.
God Bless, Bill
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Post by Chris Coletti on Mar 13, 2005 23:03:44 GMT -5
Garrett or Ryan, Where in the Bible can I find the verse or verses referring to a "One World Order". That last post resembled the idea and presentation of an attempt at that pretty clearly. If that is true I think if I am not mistaken it is prophesized, which would make what Ryan is speaking about pretty clear. Who here really thinks at the end of times when Satan makes his move we will all recognize it? It will not come in as a lion it will come as a dove of peace. Those who speak up will be chastised and alienated. It is the beast at his best. All of us will meet God at our death. What do you think he will say when he reviews this part of our lives? I hope it’s not “Go to Hell!”
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Post by Ryan Thames on Mar 13, 2005 23:15:58 GMT -5
Thank you guys ;D
Chris im trying to find it. I dont think its in those particular words but i know its in there ill have to keep looking.
Garret, you are absolutly correct. I did see that movie i didnt know it had anything to do with that though.
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Post by Chris Coletti on Mar 13, 2005 23:18:12 GMT -5
I will have to re read Revelation. It may be in there.
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Post by Chris Coletti on Mar 13, 2005 23:19:28 GMT -5
Ryan, If you keep this up you might get crucified! lol.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Mar 13, 2005 23:35:16 GMT -5
i think it is in revelation.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Mar 13, 2005 23:37:41 GMT -5
I just wanna get married first ;D
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Post by Steven Lareau on Mar 14, 2005 0:06:10 GMT -5
I just wanna get married first ;D I think Ryan's in love
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Post by Ryan Thames on Mar 14, 2005 0:14:59 GMT -5
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Post by Tony Carpenter on Mar 14, 2005 1:27:15 GMT -5
Also, keep in mind that just because you red it on the Internet, it does not make it a fact. God Bless, Bill Bill, you couldn't be more right. There's a vast amount of information on the internet. Also there's a whole lot of BS to go along with it. Hey Ryan, Bill Gates just called. He said your slowing down the net with your BS. JK!!! Sorry man, I only get one good joke a year and I had to capitalize. ;D
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Post by Jeremy Plaster on Mar 14, 2005 8:16:15 GMT -5
Chris, what you're looking for is in Revelations. I've read it but not aware of the exact scripture. As for the rest..surely one would have more than a movie and some web sites to go calling someone a satanist, wouldnt they? rather you believe in Allah, Christ..whatever you choose..Whatever God is there.. when is time comes to pass judgement on us, I think it safe to believe that you will be judged on how you live your life more than anything else.(you thought I had a purely christian outlook) I personaly do not believe that you're going to be condemed to hell if you live a life of honor for the most part. The whole golden rule thing applies I think. I think that in the next life there will be Christian/Muslims/Masons/Catholics alike all sitting together without anymore arguments of religion. One thing is for sure. Whoever your God is to you, he doesnt want fighting over things of this nature. People shouldnt be insulted because of their beliefs. People should not have to hear that their religion is a satanic cult when they are avidly denying such statements. PERIOD. Because of a few web sites you do this? this is the only proof I've seen. nothing more than rants from conspiracy theory junkies on web sites. Well then I can find websites saying that Christianity is something other than what it claims. Same can be said for almost every other religion out there. When did we collectively begin to think that because something isnt the way WE think it is that its alright to degrade others? I'll bow out of this topic before anger plays a part in it. No argument over opinions is worth getting upset by. but in my heart I believe that we will all be together in the next life if we live the right life here. Rather you believe Allah or Christ is going to be the one to take you there, if you treat others the right way, I believe tha twe'll see eachother there. Engin, Ryan, Nicole, myself, Bill and even some non-faith having people. (Ryan I know what you're going to say to this and I have heard it. I lived it, so please save it lol ) Anyway.. I get easily upset by people being lashed out at for no cause. I just do. So I will step out of this thread now with hopes that sooner than later some of you open your eyes. J
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Post by Chris Coletti on Mar 14, 2005 9:22:49 GMT -5
Jeremy, I agree. I think like everything in life we need to pull not push people. (No pun intended Starting any conversation with a whip is not the right way to go. I know nothing of the Mason's. It is dangerous when we judge on simply what others tell us. I think the verse is "Judge lest not ye be judged". Even if the source is a trusted pastor or friend. I believe that once again Satan disguises himself and sometimes that facade can come in all different personas. I think it unwise to ever intentionally insult someone in public by saying where you think they are going after death. It builds a wall between you..the person...and most readers of the message. I will however explain what I understand to be true in the Bible without going to the extreme of pushing people away or making judgments on me. I think the idea of mason's killing you for leaving was touched on in an episode of "The Soprano's". JK
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