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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Mar 14, 2005 10:39:31 GMT -5
To Bill: A BIG AMEN to your last post!!!!!!!
Look out Ryan and Garrett The Bogeymen ( masons. BTW: Which ones? ) are coming to take over the world!
Never knew Serbia was such a " hotbed " for oil. Interesting! A lib ( Clinton ) bombing " someone ' for oil? A lib helping the EVIL oilmen? Helping the EVIL Big Business? AMAZING! And I thought it was just the Devil Republicans that help out the oilmen and big business
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Post by enginterzi on Mar 14, 2005 10:43:01 GMT -5
UN bombed serbians to stop them killing Bosnians.because milosevich was a sick man and didnt quit killing civillians for many years.what UN did was necessary but also very very late.i never heard of serbia had oil there.
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Mar 14, 2005 14:05:36 GMT -5
Clinton wanted all the oil in Somalia and Haiti too
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Post by Ryan Thames on Mar 14, 2005 15:02:10 GMT -5
If we all going to get there regardless of our faith then what is the point in God, the Bible, heaven, hell. all that whats the point if none of it matters.
Jeremy whos to say whats the right standard to live by if its all left to mans opinoins.
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Mar 14, 2005 18:57:33 GMT -5
GOD?, Bible?, Heaven?, Hell?
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Post by Ryan Thames on Mar 14, 2005 19:23:06 GMT -5
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Post by Ryan Thames on Mar 14, 2005 19:59:20 GMT -5
What is "MAHABONE"?
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Post by Tony Carpenter on Mar 14, 2005 21:23:25 GMT -5
It's not the job of the US to be the world's police force. The one thing that annoys me about being in this country is that we are always being accused of either doing to much or to little. When people are suffering, we get accused of not stepping in, when we step in though, we get accused of being Emperialists. Between Somalia and Bosnia, I have the biggest headache, and now Iraq, and Afganhistan
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Post by Bill Cheetham on Mar 14, 2005 22:50:44 GMT -5
It is pronounced in 3 syllables, Ma ha Bone and means What the builder. Technically, it is a startled exclamation in the form of a question; What? The builder? Said (in an allegory) by Soloman, King of Israel in response to the recovery of Hiram Abif's body from a makeshift grave atop Mount Moriah. According to the allegory, Hiram Abif, who was skilled as a builder oversaw the actual construction of King Soloman's temple. Hiram Abif was assaulted and finally killed by 3 fellowcrafts (fellows of the craft or journeyman stonemasons) because he would not give them the secrets of a master mason. (in the times before general literacy certain hand gestures were taught to members of the trades when they progressed to the next skill level so if they went to a job site, the bosses would know what work they were qualified to do and how much they should be paid.) Only Master Masons could travel between countries to get the best jobs.
Ryan, you posted several pages of what I consider to be false and inflammatory crap about the Masons. As soon as your rhetoric was challenged, you dove for cover offering not an apology, not an explanation, but a smiley face. You wanted to take the discussion into PM's and I agreed. Tonight I come on the board and do I have a PM from you asking this question? No, you post it on the board. You and your Pastor keep trying to scare, bully and intimidate people to Jesus with your condemnation and rebuke of anyone's beliefs that are not in lock step with yours. I learned that grace and mercy are very important parts of Christianity. I find you are not a man of your word. I believe you derive great pleasure from damning others, thereby inflating your own ego. Believe what you will, it's your soul.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Mar 14, 2005 23:36:01 GMT -5
i apologize. It was just a simple question.
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Post by enginterzi on Mar 15, 2005 6:42:08 GMT -5
On July 11th, 1995, the Bosnian Serb army overran Srebrenica, one of the half dozen isolated 'safe havens' in Serb-controlled territory in central Bosnia. 42,000 refugees were bottled up there in a kind of reservation, under the hopeless protection of UNPROFOR. It is believed now that as many as 10,000 of them were liquidated within a few days.The price paid in 1995 to stop the war was acceptance of the results of ethnic cleansing which forced 2.8 million Bosnians or 60% of the prewar population to “relocate. so you have never heard of milosevich has killed thousands of civillians,and his soldiers raped the bosnian women?where did you come from?mars?they buried dead bodies by hundreds.go and do a quick search. Muslims had no problem with none of western countries.it was totally wrong and evil that what happenned on 9-11.i also do believe that there are many things that dont make sense about 9-11 attacks.i have my own search and ideas about this attack but this board cant handle what i would write.all i can say is i agree with Garrett. money controls everything including the minds,we all know who is controlling the world,and who is controlling the one that controls the world.they have to obey them because otherwise they cant be elected. i see that some of the Christians here are more sensitive about a certain thing than their religion
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Post by enginterzi on Mar 15, 2005 8:17:09 GMT -5
you mean got a necessary punishment to be stopped ethnic cleansing??
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Post by enginterzi on Mar 15, 2005 8:24:42 GMT -5
in fact i never heard that US soldiers killed serbian civillians.there maybe killings for serbian soldiers who had been killing civillians for an ethnic cleansing but never heard of killing serbian civillians.US had no reason to do that in yugoslavia.
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Post by Jeremy Plaster on Mar 15, 2005 8:36:40 GMT -5
Ryan, I never said I wanted to explain why YOU should live by the codes of the Bible or by God. Thats your choice in what you do and I have no opinion further on it at this point. I am not talking about religion..Nor am I refering the the bible. I am not speaking of God. Anyone's God for that matter. I am speaking about insulting another person's beliefs. And you have yet to explain yourself there. so again.. I shall await your response to a post I made long before this one. And to answer your last post to me: Ryan it IS in man's hands anyway. Even if what you say is true and the Bible is the only way, the choice still lies within the man, not the book nor the God. Chris, you are a very respectable man. I knew I liked you lol and right you are to not insult anyone else. I am not condeming Ryan's way of life (which he seems to justify anyway) I am condeming insulting other people and nothing more. I personally have no issues at this time concerning religion. Alot of my friends here are people of faith. I choose to lead a different life at this time, but I dont insult those with beliefs that I no longer share. I have people from lots of faiths that I call friends of mine. Engin is Muslim and I have considered him my friend since the year 2000 when I met the man the first time. Harold Ryden is one of the purest people I know and he is a VERY devout Christian. I love the guy liek a brother. Bill Maenza is Catholic.. Again, I have looked at this man as a friend and nothing more ever since first talking with him. Not ranting on you Chris..lol just talkin in general bro. Like "mighty Paul" said about his bouncing.. I have been in some bad times in my life.. VERY bad times, and ya know, it wasnt just Christians making sure i was okay. It wasnt just Christians that stood by my side. Omer Bennurkenn (spelling on last name???) stood by my side all the way from Turkey where he was just unwilling sent. Set his own bad times aside to assist me with mine. Bill Maenza did the same..As did James R. as did Harold Ryden and John Wilson and Karen Curravoo. and ya know what. I only know the faith of TWO of those people and I only mentioned the tip of the pack. My only point in ALL of these posts on this thread is that you shouldnt insult another's beliefs.. simple as that. No matter how right you think you are. If the WORLD followed this practice we would all have a much safer and better world to live in together. Afterall.. we are all roomates on a broader spectrum. J
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Post by Bill Cheetham on Mar 15, 2005 10:27:03 GMT -5
Regarding my modification posted at 11:41 PM last night.
I apologize to Ryan Thames, Kurt Howgate and all Northeast Board members for the last few sentences of the post. I did not follow the scripture verse I posted yesterday as my signature, and went after Ryan personally, instead of staying on topic.
Bill Cheetham
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