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Post by Coley Jones on Aug 25, 2008 23:46:14 GMT -5
I just mail bombed a bunch of my contacts (friends, family) and asked them what they think would make AW fun to watch, and how could it generate more revenue. Hopefully I will get some good responses.....but it's hard to tell with the "don't knows".
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Post by Gary Roberts on Aug 25, 2008 23:47:43 GMT -5
if identifying the problem was so easy...how come no one talked about it before.
all I can do is continue to do what I am doing.
It is up to you guys to do your own things as well. if you care.
thats all the point is
some care, some don't
(those who care, should understand the whys and how it can be changed
if we make changes however gradual.
those who don't care will begin to care more,
and the "don't knows will fall"
I have my plans but they just involved doing what I am already doing but on a more consistent and upped level.
RoTN and giving money away is my beginning steps
employees to help edit is a step
sponsoring armwrestlers is a step
sponsoring teams is a step
taking armwrestlers to international events to show what we have here
these are all steps but will never happen
until the balance of power shifts from outsiders to insiders
as I mentioned if everyone, Who cares, does something then we head in that direction.
IT does not have to be a "unified" organization, that is clearly a more advanced stage.
As an example of something I would do if I had the resources,
sponsor all 50 state events only can attend usaf if you place sponsor usaf, and the resulting team to worlds, all paid
I would sponsor a circuit of ROTN's around the country resulting in the final Kansas, a total of 9 events a year
I would make sure that most sports magazines had advertising related to armwrestling.
and newspaper as well as sponsor sports message boards
I would also give seed money to plant ARM TV events in foreign countries that paid athletes to attend those events and also bring their competitors to our country.
The list goes on.
but this is my list. You should all have your list, if you care.
If you don't care. then don't worry (but those who don't care should not biatch about the state of armwrestling)
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Post by Todd Smiley on Aug 25, 2008 23:56:34 GMT -5
if identifying the problem was so easy...how come no one talked about it before. all I can do is continue to do what I am doing. your plans sound great.. I am sure you will get the support you need.. as for why has no one mentioned it before.. Who has the ability to reach masses better than someone in media production? I have seen the problem a couple years ago when my brother started being unstoppable.. (he took second place his second tournament and since age 15 has never been beaten in any junior tournament in the U.S. to date) I as many people do not know the people that one would need to help promote the sport and inject new ideas and avenues to build up the sport and have it recognized ...
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Post by Tim "Powerhouse" Parker on Aug 26, 2008 0:00:22 GMT -5
I just mail bombed a bunch of my contacts (friends, family) and asked them what they think would make AW fun to watch, and how could it generate more revenue. Hopefully I will get some good responses.....but it's hard to tell with the "don't knows". thats actually one of the best things u could do to get some sort of grip on what civilian spectators might find appealing. Gary, maybe you should follow Coleys lead .. and say,... Create a "user friendly" polling page with Coleys basic questions. People should have the ability to click on to choose their answers .. and more importanly should be able to add to the choices. Also should be able to have a comments field too. You will want to make it so u have to authorize the additions to prevent boneheads from spamming it. Once its created give us (and the world for that matter) the link and let us do exactly what Coley did .... simply pass it onto everyone we think would be receptive to giving of their time to take part. You would be amazed how people will help out by filling it out. I have done simialir polls for dif. marketing stuff for my biz. And lets not forget ... that all the people that will be taken part of the poll would be GOING to ARMTV. exposure, exposure, exposure. maybe even $$$
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Post by Aaron Blevins on Aug 26, 2008 0:01:04 GMT -5
Gary, so I guess I'm getting a little frustrated with no acknowledgement of any other plan, just as you so elequently said and I quote "I have my plans but they just involved doing what I am already doing but on a more consistent and upped level." So I take it now that you either will not acknowledge others opinions with a good/no-good reply or you already have it all worked out and need more revenue to make it happen. Sounds good, now tell me (a nobody armwrestler at this point, but ARMTV subscriber) how you plan to attain those "outsiders" ?
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Post by Todd Smiley on Aug 26, 2008 0:08:26 GMT -5
Gary you would be a great rep to organize one of the many organizations we have.. get it advertised and tightened up so it not only works but is effective in bringing us together..
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Post by Gary Roberts on Aug 26, 2008 0:18:29 GMT -5
to be honest, as I was typing a lot of these messages have appeared so I really havent spent a lot of time reading this thread yet. (I have read a few but not the entire thing yet)
I am not sure why your frustrated...I am merely saying that I am currently giving it my best. I am taking it one armwrestling tournament at a time, doing wht I Know how to do.
Thank you for being a member by the way.
how am I getting outsiders?
Every single person in my life or comes or that I come into contact with knows what my goals are for armwrestling. I tell them.
The minute I tell them. They become an insider
RoTN is my larger scale plan.
I am going to have to read this thread tomrrow. I literally have been working on this for a day so I will see you tomorrow.
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Post by Gary Roberts on Aug 26, 2008 0:19:51 GMT -5
goodnight todd, aaron, tim and coley.
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Post by Gary Roberts on Aug 26, 2008 0:26:34 GMT -5
I WILL RESPOND TO ALL TOMORROW. FORGIVE. I WAS ONLY PREPARED TO GET TO THE DEADLINE AND EXAUSTED ALL EFFORTS TO MAKE IT
NOW I MUST FALL OVER
THERE ARE BELIEVERS: IT FEELS GOOD
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Post by Chris Coletti on Aug 26, 2008 3:17:41 GMT -5
I started it and sat in front of a blank screen for a minute then shut it down. Is it like "The Polar Express?" Do you have to "believe" in order to see it? ;D
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Post by Gary Roberts on Aug 26, 2008 3:24:30 GMT -5
did you make sure you refreshed your browser...the first minute is some audio only so you will have to listen and then it starts. for the rest of you guys I added all of your comments to this page and then responded. It took a few hours. I couldn't sleep before..but now I am going. www.armwrestlingtv.com/password/2008/082508/082508.html
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Post by Carey Nick on Aug 26, 2008 4:44:38 GMT -5
I started it and sat in front of a blank screen for a minute then shut it down. Is it like "The Polar Express?" Do you have to "believe" in order to see it? ;D LOL Buddy.
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Post by Chris Gangi on Aug 26, 2008 4:49:46 GMT -5
It was like watching one of those Infomercials on Sunday morning.........
Gary has just cemented the fact that he is totally NUTS.
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Aug 26, 2008 10:55:13 GMT -5
GARY: YOU "hyped" up everyone to WATCH a self promotion video, to get more money FROM US,well NOT me, DUMBASS ARMWESTLERS to watch ARMTV, when they can watch it for FREE!!!!!!! Yet you say its to go mainstream....... Why don't YOU tell US, ( LEGENDS IN THE SPORT COUNTED) the MAJORITY, that don't get involved, WHAT YOU have done, besides take SPONSORS (Kansas) money, WITH NO RETURN IN INVESTMENT (SMALL or LARGE)? Then go to the same "DUMBASS" and do it AGAIN this year...With PROBABLY worse results, seeing how the economy is...BET he isn't stupid the 3rd time around!!!!!!!!! YOUR NOTHING BUT A SNAKE OIL SALESMAN!!!!!!!!!!!
EVERYONE KNOWS WHY ARMWRESTLING WILL NEVER GO MAINSTREAM, its been talked about adnasium (sp?)...YET YOU DON"T GET IT.
OH ARMTV is better than ever?...Then why the 31 hr ( or however many it took) bus ride to Texas cause YOU, ARMTV, didn't have $300 for airfare, if ARMTV is doing so well?.....HUH
How did England work for you? Want me to go into that?
GO ahead "Rattlesnakie", and others, jump all over me..Go and DEFEND THIS CRAP!!!!!!!
.He is nothing but a PROMOTER selling his product on us, in the guise that he is THERe FOR US AND THIS "SPORT"....DON"T YOU PEOPLE GET IT YET?
ARMSPORTVIDEOS!!!!!!!..ITS FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Jake Smith on Aug 26, 2008 11:07:32 GMT -5
call me stupid but i know gary and I know his intentions are sincere. But yeah he is a little crazy for sure
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