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Post by Pete & Tim on Aug 27, 2008 9:43:50 GMT -5
You upset me because you insinuated that I make people put up there own money. I DO NOT!!! I offer suggestions to people on how to get that money and if it is not a substantial amount I SUGGEST to them IF THEY CAN to put it up themselves.
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Post by Gary Roberts on Aug 27, 2008 9:50:20 GMT -5
whatever, you know what I mean. It is a good system. It works.
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Post by Pete & Tim on Aug 27, 2008 9:54:10 GMT -5
I know it's a good system. More people should do it. I know Joe Gould from Canada has adapted my format to his events and is getting a HUGE response to it.
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Post by Leonard Harkless on Aug 27, 2008 9:56:25 GMT -5
ARM TV is 100% self supporting. Wrong!!! Arm TV is 100% DEPENDENT!!! Armsport Videos is 100% self supporting!!! Arm TV is dependent on Don Fritsche sponsoring the ROTN. Arm TV is dependent on armwrestlers paying a monthly fee. Armsport Videos is 100% self supporting. Ignorance is a Bowl of S H I T thinking it's a bowl of PUDDING!!! Now wait a minute Pete. Don Fritsche is a sponsor and like any other sponsor he is getting advertising for his sponsorship of an event. Don is able to deduct it from the business taxes as advertisement. Just because Don is also a puller doesn't mean that he doesn't know what he is doing and Gary is somehow taking advantage of him. Just because Armsport Video is self supporting does not mean that Gary shouldn't charge for his product. Apples and Oranges so Gary is providing a service that armwrestlers want and that is why they pay for it. I have no idea why you are so down on Gary but he is helping our sport which is more than can be said for some.
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Post by Pete & Tim on Aug 27, 2008 10:02:48 GMT -5
You are right about Don being the sponsor. I am not saying anything about that. What I am saying is that Gary said Arm TV is 100% self supporting and that was a false statement. I'm also not arguing that Gary provides a great service and charges for it. I have even said to Scott Macinnis that Gary should be able to charge because his service, as of right now, is better then the free service that Scott provides.
I also never implied that Gary was taking advantage of Don in anyway. I don't know where you got that from. I just said that it was Don providing the money for the ROTN that Gary is having. Nothing wrong with that but Gary is making it seem like Arm TV is included in providing that, which he is not.
Hope that helps you understand me better.
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Post by Gary Roberts on Aug 27, 2008 10:18:07 GMT -5
ROTN and ARM TV are separate entities
ARM TV STREAMS videos and that service as of right now for the most...is self sustaining.
I used the wrong words before. self sustaining is a better term.
clearly ROTN without sponsors is nothing at the moment. If no sponsors. no ROTn. If that happened ROTN would disappear until ARM TV could be the title sponsor.
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Post by Joshua 'Turbo' Borrow on Aug 28, 2008 2:12:11 GMT -5
Do you know why armtv is better than armsport videos? because the fact that gary charges he goes to just about every tournament he can. If he was doing it for free and had a 9 to 5 would he be able to make those tourneys? hell no he wouldnt there is no boss that will let you off for 2 or 3 days every week or two. You guys need to quit bashing him, if you dont like it then dont be a member.
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Post by Chris Kaufman on Aug 28, 2008 8:16:11 GMT -5
I friend of mine that is not involved in the sport brought up a good point. If you are going to use ArmTV as a focal point to expose the world to armwrestling, there should be some sort of 3 - 6 month trial membership. Someone that is new to the sport is most likely not going to pay for something that they were just exposed to. Hell it took me a couple years to become a member, and it's not that I didn't want to or I didn't have the money, it was because I didn't realize the worth of being a member. Now that I am a member I will most likely always be because I love watching tournaments that I'm not able to attend. Just thinking out loud.
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Post by Gary Roberts on Aug 28, 2008 9:04:01 GMT -5
GOOD point
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Aug 29, 2008 11:08:11 GMT -5
Tim Clark... Sorry if I hit a nerve. Truth ALWAYS does that....BTW: How many where in that 12lb or 132lb class that you won your Nat title? Hey its your opinion and thats cool..Maybe the reason watching LEFT is like watching paint dry to you is because MAYBE YOU CAN'T DO IT!!! Its ALL subjective to what's boring to someone and NOT the other. Funny you said paint dry: 04 Nats was supposed to be shown ONCE.....Because of ME and TRAVIS its been show close to 100 times!. Out of the 3 classes filmed and shown, you know which was shown MOST?...You guessed it SUPERS LEFT!!!!!!!.. Also, it was shown around the World..Friends saw ME and TRAVIS in Puerto Rico, and Belguim.....So again, its all subjective..... Funny, A little birdie, and he would know, once told me that the 04 SUPERS LEFT has the highest ratings EVER for ALL ARMWRESTLING shows!...... So again, its ALL subjective...
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