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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Aug 6, 2013 17:44:20 GMT -5
From what I can tell, the "fake" Nationals, USAA, had the biggest turn out. We had 14 in the Pro 176 RH class alone. UGH
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Post by Bob Brown on Aug 6, 2013 18:00:47 GMT -5
I don't know what every is concerned about.
Just go out and pull.
Don't worry, the heads of our sport have it all under control.
USAF, USAA, AAA, WWC, IAF, WPAA, UAL, NAL, NAP are all working very diligently together to grow our sport.
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Post by user123 on Aug 6, 2013 18:08:28 GMT -5
From what I can tell, the "fake" Nationals, USAA, had the biggest turn out. We had 14 in the Pro 176 RH class alone. UGH Just stating a fact. I'm not saying what nationals should be the one true nationals, but from what I saw this year, it seemed like USAA @ the Europa was the biggest nationals in 2013.
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Post by TK on Aug 6, 2013 18:36:44 GMT -5
UGH Just stating a fact. I'm not saying what nationals should be the one true nationals, but from what I saw this year, it seemed like USAA @ the Europa was the biggest nationals in 2013. AAA had more entries.
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Post by TK on Aug 6, 2013 18:38:23 GMT -5
I don't know what every is concerned about. Just go out and pull. Don't worry, the heads of our sport have it all under control. USAF, USAA, AAA, WWC, IAF, WPAA, UAL, NAL, NAP are all working very diligently together to grow our sport. Under control? Organized chaos maybe? The sport is moving backwards.
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Post by Michael Creason on Aug 6, 2013 19:10:28 GMT -5
Ok, I read every post in here and I think I got the skinny. IMO it makes since to have multiple nationals for many different reasons, but overall you can argue from both sides depending on your stance.
For: 1. It allows people to not travel so far and waste money when most of us have families to feed. 2. It motivates people to try to win a title, which that is exactly what these are, which also helps grow the sport. 3. It brings amrwrestling to different parts of the USA which also helps grow the sport.
Against 1. It can make a title not seem as prestigious. 2. Not every National qualifies you for worlds, but if you really wanted to go to worlds you would make time to go to the tournament that qualified you for it.
etc. etc. so on and so on, overall argue whichever you feel but I think if it helps grow the sport its a must. Thanks to all the promoters that put in all the hard work to make these events happen.
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Post by Pete & Tim on Aug 6, 2013 19:11:33 GMT -5
Tim B again I will try and clear why most of the top guys don't pull nationals (hope im not out of place) We get paid to travel hotel air fare and something to pull.So travel on myown dime not really good, Or take a chance on screwing up my arm when my whole year is spent training for big avents.As for three nationals they all have a right to call there show what ever they want. NAL world champ UAL world champ world bar armwresling world champ WAF world champ other WAF world champ WWC world champ MLA world champ NAP world champ well that's more than threewhy isn't anyone making a thread on that!!!!! As for Karen B GIVEHER THE RESPECT SHE DESERVES,she heads up AAA and is on the USAF board so she KINDA KNOWS WHAT SHES TALKING ABOUT,I pulled in USAA many many times great event top knoch people run great event!!!Unified more good people running another great even. so lets stop the 100th thread on this subjet lets move on to the steroid thread its been a bit since the lastone of those!!!!!!!
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Post by user123 on Aug 6, 2013 20:07:59 GMT -5
Just stating a fact. I'm not saying what nationals should be the one true nationals, but from what I saw this year, it seemed like USAA @ the Europa was the biggest nationals in 2013. AAA had more entries. There may have been more total entries, but because they offer so many weight classes, the classes weren't as competitive, in my opinion. When you offer 154, 165, 176, 187, and 198, instead of just 154, 176, 198, the classes are bound to be thinner. Think about it. If AAA only had 176, then some of the 165 and 187 guys would have to enter that class. That's why USAA had 14 entries in the pro 176 class.
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Post by user123 on Aug 6, 2013 20:08:34 GMT -5
Just stating a fact. I'm not saying what nationals should be the one true nationals, but from what I saw this year, it seemed like USAA @ the Europa was the biggest nationals in 2013. AAA had more entries. There may have been more total entries, but because they offer so many weight classes, the classes weren't as competitive, in my opinion. When you offer 154, 165, 176, 187, and 198, instead of just 154, 176, 198, the classes are bound to be thinner. Think about it. If AAA only had 176, then some of the 165 and 187 guys would have to enter that class. That's why USAA had 14 entries in the pro 176 class.
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Post by Justin "Bama Bull" Bishop on Aug 6, 2013 20:40:25 GMT -5
Most of the top guys pull a consistent class...again most. Which is why I pulled 76 instead of 65.
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Post by Giles Russell on Aug 6, 2013 21:17:21 GMT -5
Sounds like to me, the man is saying he and Klemba woulda cruised through the 76's at AAA there Mr. B...
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Post by Mike West on Aug 6, 2013 21:29:12 GMT -5
Christian, I understand about spending the money to go, but what gets me is that none of the National events get any respect anymore, "well you won because so and so didn't show" or " you won because it was a low turn out". For the guys and gals that spend their hard earned $$ and training time to go support a national event, and then do good at the event and know one cares is aggravating. I guess with all the $$ events happening now, none of the Elites (except for Craig Tullier) will show up to a national event anymore. Guess we will never have a "true national champion" again
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Post by user123 on Aug 6, 2013 21:52:51 GMT -5
Sounds like to me, the man is saying he and Klemba woulda cruised through the 76's at AAA there Mr. B... Whoa Whoa...pump the brakes there Mr. Russell. I don't need a bunch of angry country boys out to get me.
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Post by Giles Russell on Aug 6, 2013 22:19:57 GMT -5
Haha!!!!
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Post by Tommy Russell on Aug 6, 2013 22:47:54 GMT -5
Sounds like to me, the man is saying he and Klemba woulda cruised through the 76's at AAA there Mr. B... Whoa Whoa...pump the brakes there Mr. Russell. I don't need a bunch of angry country boys out to get me. Too late there Mister "tell your brother he's a pu$$y if he don't show up".........
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