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Post by Robert Bishop on Jul 19, 2007 17:56:57 GMT -5
Everytime a person is tempted to do something do they do it?Every time you are tempted to steal money or punch someone in the mouth do you do it?The devil will get you to sin against god any way he can including this topic
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Post by Tim Layton on Jul 19, 2007 18:01:09 GMT -5
What I was saying is there isn't gay animals. Humans aren't animals. I don't classify myself with an animal, you can if you want to I have a far larger thinking compacity than an animal. But according to the dear Biology homosexuals aren't natural things because they go against Natures purpose. ONLY humans can make test tube babies no other creature can. Thats what I was saying. They are an outcast in the natural process which I believe somewhat of but I don't believe it all. I believe people choose to do what they want. Only animals react on sole instinct an don't have higher thinking processes. Thats what seperates me from an animal. Im not sure what seperates you cause you wanna keep classifying yourself with them. Homosexuals can't reproduce naturally therefor by def. of natural, they aren't normal cause they won't reproduce normally like others. Thats why I keep saying it's not natural from a biological point of view, whether you wanna believe that or not is up to you. Here is proof, from a Biological perspective. Scroll down to the bottom and click on the link where you see humans. Humans are grouped with other animals. www.sciencemag.org/feature/data/tol/Before you make statements like "according to the dear Biology homosexuals aren't natural things because they go against Natures purpose," or "Thats why I keep saying it's not natural from a biological point of view, whether you wanna believe that or not is up to you," you should learn what biological science is first. Adding "from a biological point of view" to your random beliefs about life doesn't make it a new biological truth. It is obvious that humans are more intelligent than any other animals. There are varying degrees of intelligence among all animals. But if you want to discuss this issue in the realm of biology, you can't escape the fact that we are all animals. |
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jul 19, 2007 18:09:43 GMT -5
Im not an animal im a human. It was someone elses theory an opinion that we are animals not mine or yours you just go on what a few other Very Intelligent scientist agree on. Everything a scientist does is open to debate an to be tested. Nothing is certain except you are born you pay taxes an you die. Everything else falls in gray area where you make decisions yourself an choose who to believe. So no nothing is fact just cause it says it at the bottom of a website doesn't make it fact. Someone can say green is yellow an people could believe him if they wanted to. But everything is there to be reproved.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jul 19, 2007 18:11:34 GMT -5
I have taken Biology. Most of what I learned dealt with cells. Viruses,bacterias,classifications (naturally) I believe we are in the homonid section. But I classify myself above all the other animals. We may be similar to monkeys but did you know a cows blood is more closely related to our own???
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jul 19, 2007 18:12:08 GMT -5
Your mainly classified by looks an features that doesn't mean your just another animal though.
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Post by Tim Layton on Jul 19, 2007 18:34:03 GMT -5
Im not an animal im a human. It was someone elses theory an opinion that we are animals not mine or yours you just go on what a few other Very Intelligent scientist agree on. Everything a scientist does is open to debate an to be tested. Nothing is certain except you are born you pay taxes an you die. Everything else falls in gray area where you make decisions yourself an choose who to believe. So no nothing is fact just cause it says it at the bottom of a website doesn't make it fact. Someone can say green is yellow an people could believe him if they wanted to. But everything is there to be reproved. Nothing is a fact, huh? Ever heard of gravity? Science is self-correcting and ever improving. I don't understand how you can so easily dismiss sciencemag.org but yet really believe the bible has any useful information in it. |
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Post by Tim Layton on Jul 19, 2007 18:37:08 GMT -5
I have taken Biology. Most of what I learned dealt with cells. Viruses,bacterias,classifications (naturally) I believe we are in the homonid section. But I classify myself above all the other animals. We may be similar to monkeys but did you know a cows blood is more closely related to our own??? "We admit that we are like apes, but we seldom realize that we are apes." - Richard Dawkins I think this guy knows a thing or two about biology  |
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Post by Tim Layton on Jul 19, 2007 18:37:47 GMT -5
Your mainly classified by looks an features that doesn't mean your just another animal though. Actually it does. |
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Post by Robert Bishop on Jul 19, 2007 18:41:26 GMT -5
So what your doing is picking which scientist you want to believe and disregarding the rest who say what you dont want to here
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Post by Tim Layton on Jul 19, 2007 18:46:04 GMT -5
So what your doing is picking which scientist you want to believe and disregarding the rest who say what you dont want to here Actually I chose to quote Richard Dawkins because he is one of the most well respected and intelligent scientists of our time and he was just stating a fact every biologist knows. Here is a brief summary: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2007 19:14:16 GMT -5
Well, I made the decision to post only one message to this thread, so I'm exceeding that by 100 %, and will stop there. What boundaries do you speak of Bob? I have never heard of boundaries when it comes to learning something? Nope. Didn't imply boundaries on learning - I suggest the opposite, actually. That's it for me on this thread (except for seeing the conclusion...)!  |
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Post by Justin Kaufman on Jul 19, 2007 19:46:54 GMT -5
This topic is GAY!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Mat Helmer on Jul 19, 2007 21:01:49 GMT -5
So what your doing is picking which scientist you want to believe and disregarding the rest who say what you dont want to here Actually I chose to quote Richard Dawkins because he is one of the most well respected and intelligent scientists of our time and he was just stating a fact every biologist knows. Here is a brief summary: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ApeWe are all great apes... at least I am! ;D Apes are the members of the Hominoidea superfamily of primates, which includes humans. Under current classification, there are two families of hominoids:
* the family Hylobatidae consists of 4 genera and 12 species of gibbons, including the Lar Gibbon and the Siamang, collectively known as the "lesser apes"
* the family Hominidae consisting of orangutans, gorillas, chimpanzees, and humans,[1][2] collectively known as the "great apes".
A few other primates, such as the Barbary Ape, have the word "ape" in their common names, but they are not regarded as true apes by most authorities. |
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jul 19, 2007 22:19:17 GMT -5
No I don't dismiss gravity. But it's still not a solid fact you can't see gravity.
As far as the animal no matter how many supposed genius scientist you say believe we are an animal and an ape that makes them idiots IMO. Im not an ape never will be you can if you want to buddy. Just not my style.
There are so many holes in the evolution theory. I find natural selection to be unbelievable just as ya'll find God to be unbelievable just trust me when I say one day you will know what I mean an it may not be long from now. Just keep watching the news an listening. Richard Dawkins is an IDIOT for saying that. WOW he has PHD's an is a genius to some people to others he is an idiot. As far as IQ Steven Hawkins is the smartest man in the world he can't explain the human concious either. They don't even know if the brain controls the human concious. There are people like ya'll that don't like to admit that we don't know everything so you hold onto wild theorys an in turn say I hold onto wild fantasies. Im done talking for good on this thread.
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Post by Bob Paradis on Jul 19, 2007 22:41:28 GMT -5
The body of knowledge in the field of biology appears large to our limited intellect, yet, we haven't scratched the surface in relation to the entire body of physical knowledge that exists in the field of biology. Think micro. We know a little about the cells and how they interact, what the components of the cells are, how nutrients enter and wastes leave. We know about elect ons and protons and neutrons. We know a little about the particles that make up the electrons and protons and neutrons. But what about the particles that make up those particles? And the particles that make up the particles that make up those particles?
You see, infinity goes forward and toward "zero." In relation to the infinite body of science we call biology, we know very little. We should keep our egos in check. All good scientists do. A scientist, by definition, asks questions, not answers definitively. Classifications and the like are not definitive bodies of knowledge. They are theories to be discussed and analyzed, but never to be taken as absolute. Even the field of mathematics has assumptions and definitions that have to be agreed upon before you can state something simple like 1+1=2. What does the numeral one represent? What is a numeral? What is the definition of adding? What exactly does the symbol "equal" mean? Does = mean exactness? What is the definition of "is?' etc.
The Bible, on the other hand, contains inspired writing. The writing is inspired by God. The contents, while at times difficult to interpret, represent absolute truth as revealed to us by God. Since there are many young men involved in this discussion, I urge serious humility for you until you have lived a while. The young college grad is in the most dangerous position...lots of knowledge, but virtually no wisdom. Wisdom comes with age to those who seek it. You won't find it on Wikipedia. God bless,
Bob
OH! And wisdom never comes to the proud of heart. It only comes to the humble. Because of God's love for you, you will experience all sorts of suffering in this life. Ask God for help through the tough stuff, and humility will come. If you push God away (ie., He doesn't exist) you will become increasingly bitter. When the bitterness gets strong, you will grow in hatred or seek secular psychological help. The feel good meds will relieve some of your tension from the bitterness, but won't address the root cause. Humble pie is the only way to go my friends!!!
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