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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jun 1, 2011 19:09:23 GMT -5
Isaiah 34:14- The wild beasts of the desert shall also meet with the wild beasts of the island, and the satyr shall cry to his fellow; the screech owl also shall rest there, and find for herself a place of rest.
^is that referring to Lillith?
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jun 1, 2011 19:19:18 GMT -5
I wouldn't dwell on Lilith much. The only sources of that legend are not reliable in my opinion.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jun 1, 2011 19:21:22 GMT -5
My friend who is a mason speaks similar. I also had and uncle who was a high mason but he left the group and was one of the best witnesses and preachers I have ever met in my life. Your right John there is a difference between the horned goat and Jesus for sure. But could it be that Masonry has been infilitrated just like everything else. This has me confused also. No.... Freemasonry at it's core is evil. Most aren't aware of this because they are in the blue lodge. Oblivious to the truth. The higher ups know. But as the bible says they think they are doing the will of the lord.
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Post by Michael Wells on Jun 1, 2011 19:25:08 GMT -5
So I could've been correct. Yay. Lol
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jun 1, 2011 19:28:37 GMT -5
It would appear so Michael, my apologies.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jun 1, 2011 19:30:46 GMT -5
My friend who is a mason speaks similar. I also had and uncle who was a high mason but he left the group and was one of the best witnesses and preachers I have ever met in my life. Your right John there is a difference between the horned goat and Jesus for sure. But could it be that Masonry has been infilitrated just like everything else. This has me confused also. No.... Freemasonry at it's core is evil. Most aren't aware of this because they are in the blue lodge. Oblivious to the truth. The higher ups know. But as the bible says they think they are doing the will of the lord. From what I have studied there are even at the high levels a group that is in the "know" and a group that is not in the "know" So Lucifer is a way Satan has blasphemed the name of God. I just tried to explain all of what I learned to my grandma and she was having none of that lol
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jun 1, 2011 19:53:44 GMT -5
Yes not a well received notion when you go your church and greet your luciferian brothers
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jun 1, 2011 19:57:27 GMT -5
I must admit I was very hesitant to acknowledge christ as lucifer. It still doesn't quite sound right. But it is what it is
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jun 1, 2011 20:12:44 GMT -5
It actually makes perfect sense though because Christ is described as the bringer of light. Maybe the false teachers do have a bigger foothold than we ever realized???
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jun 1, 2011 20:13:27 GMT -5
btw after I explained it to my grandmother in depth and she is an old timer she even said it made sense.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jun 1, 2011 20:15:16 GMT -5
That website John posted explains it very well. That makes so much of what people talk about when referring to Lucifer seem very ignorant.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jun 1, 2011 20:22:38 GMT -5
Yes it does.
When you hear prophecy preachers quoting Isaiah you may now see that they don't know what they are talking about.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jun 1, 2011 20:31:09 GMT -5
^exactly. Means they did not actually do the studying they should have done to come to the conclusion. Just spitting out stuff they have already heard. I sent my preachers the links and stuff to get their opinions. Should be interesting. I don't see how you can deny factual evidence like that???
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Post by John Wilson on Jun 1, 2011 21:39:46 GMT -5
I'm not ready to call it factual. I just found a link with a plausible explanation. I can't personally confirm any of it. It's as good an explanation as I have read, and it does not violate the message or intent of scripture as I understand it.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jun 1, 2011 21:50:32 GMT -5
Now all we have to do John is learn Hebrew, Greek, and Latin. Thats the only way I can see this one being wrong is if the guy didn't know what he was talking about as far as the languages go. I ask my preacher and I believe he can speak some of the languages.
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